He was better than Roby and has been throughout the series.

Take your Saints specs off.

The scooter is dead. Thank God.

Shame for you that we have Keiron Cunningham and Scott Moore there in case he doesn't go that well at loose forward eh?

I agree leuleuai is rubbish!

He's never lived up to it and is was of the reasons his club side is a mid table side.

You mean he did against a France 2nd team?

Is mid table third?
One position behind Saints, and a World Cup Winner?

3rd????

I said you was mid table side which you are.

Check the super league table.

Check the end of season table, after the play offs when the money is handed out.

Correct.
Go to bed, you've won first prize.

Did Saints win the Grand final final in 2007 or 2008?
Did it matter if they finished top?

This debate is really about the scooter hooker isn't it.
Leuluai started all three games for the Kiwis.

Roby started once for England and got demoted.

He's another Mickey Higham.

Will he start before the fat boy next season, or will Scott Moore start?
Sorry the thread has got derailed into a Wigan v saints thing but I do believe that Roby was poor (again) tonight.

Anyway you try and dress it, you finished mid table in the only table the is which is super league.

Now go and put your Wigan PJS on, have hot milky drink from your Wigan mug, take your Wigan slippers off and get in your bed with your Wigan duvet on.

You can dream about the days when Wigan was a team that was important and took part in important games.

A pairing...???

I wasnt overly impressed with either to be honest (nor have i been with Myler before anyone thinks its an Anti other clubs players thing)

I thought Tomkins worked hard and was infectious with his hard defensive work but I didnt see any creativity, and this sidewiding run and skip thing he does is now a touch predictable as well as ineffective.
Eastmond looks to have a bit more quality about his game, but didnt get involved enough for me....neither player strikes me as the kind to take a game by the scruff of the neck.

that said I thought James Graham played his best game for the National side by some distance and Sinfield looked a class act, he reminded me of Cantebury bulldogs Hooker Michael Innis an excellent display.

they'll still get mullered in the final by the way

I agree with all that biscuit

Thought Sinfield was good when at hooker but when moved out of that position i thought he stopped the ball movement to the likes of Eastmond and Tomkins, as a result their effectiveness declined.

Re Roby scooting. He was excellent and his runs helped to get England out of trouble from deep in their own half, during a period when the kiwis were asserting themselves.

Thought Briscoe was appaling at fullback.
His postitional sense was very poor and he was very hesitant fielding the ball
Bridge was reasonably solid but a penalty machine in defence.

As per the World Cup final, NZ looked far better when Luke was at dummy half than when Leuluai was there.