Nathan Brown is making it all ten times worse with his stupid messing around of the players.

I agree. He needs to pick the best team available in there where possible correct positions.

Greenwood at centre? Jesus

I hate to say I told you so again, but I said last season it was a massive mistake not bringing him in when we sacked Royston. We could have had this capitulation then as he broke down our previous structures and built his own and he'd have spotted far earlier that we had a terrible side. We'd now be 12 months further down the line than we are now.

This season could have a dramatic impact on Saints. I reckon we're probably half a million quid down on where we could have been in terms of gate receipts and they are going to have a difficult job convincing people to renew season tickets and not just cherry pick games.

Was he playing centre tho?

I couldn't work out what the team was.

Where was Turber playing ? (We'd be better with Alan Turner ex emmerdale)

Wait till next season then if this continues

But I'm paying money out of my benefits for THIS season and so I don't want to wait until NEXT season. I want to see effort, commitment, good basic skills and good discipline from ALL our players (and not just our young guns) NOW.

So there!

I appreciate that, I have also parted with money for this year in the form of wasting it on a season ticket. If you look at what I quoted though I meant I can see the money from gates getting worse

The gates will drop, that's a 100% sure.

It is easy just to post negativity and say I told you so. You need to balance it with creativity. Last night was as bad as it gets I have not seen a run like this for 30 years. I am horrified we are looking to enhance LMS contract he just looks so unfit, fair play to the young players who are stopping us getting tonked

Tbf fair to LMS, I thought he did better than usual last night.

Well things aren't improving, the only thing I'm no longer sure about is are we at the bottom , decline wise or could we get even worse ...

Our "transitional" period has been and gone. We came out the other end a 100% worse as I predicted.

On-field performance is not one of the major determining factors in home attendance/season tickets nowadays - quality of facilities, overall matchday experience and the inate "RLness" of the area are all vastly more important. We'll inevitably see some drop off in numbers next year if results don't pick up but to nothing remotely like the doom and gloom levels being predicted by the usual suspects.

I'll make another prediction and you can bookmark this if you want as I'm confident I'll be right.

We will be averaging 8 thousand per game come the start of 2015.

I'd agree , unless we have a hell of a 2014 ..