I thought it was off side in the ground. But after watching it again at home a few times and understanding the rules as explained by the ref on the night and the head of the refs I think it was a close 50/50 that went Leeds way and it was a try.

I think it is very telling that Cummings had to write a piece for the rugby league press attempting to convince everyone Bentham was right. Cummings also said he could have understood a penalty try being awarded to Gardner for Webb's illegal tackle, but that wasn't given. I think his need to explain and defend his refs' decisions says more about those decisions than anything else. He clearly knows his refs were on thin ice.

Had it not been for Meli's two brainfarts I would say Leeds were extremely lucky to win on Saturday night. However, as I have acknowledged elsewhere, those two dodgy decisions (against Gardner and for you) were not the reason we lost. Meli was.

by some random fluke end up sat next to an assistant coach of a super league club, he called every VR decision as the VR did, before the VR did, I raised the question of a possible penalty try when they replayed Webb's challenge, he said 'nah, not in the act of scoring'..
he also felt that Smiths 2nd was a try.

But the explanation they gave isn't in the rule book, it doesn't say anything about planted feet and ball position.

What it actually says is that if you're in front of a team mate and he has the ball in his hands then you are offside. You can get put back onside if he gets in front of you or you give the opposing side 10 metres.

Cummins has come out with a load of waffle to cover Bentham's shocking error of judgement. Most folk will take that waffle as gospel.

Only the deluded ones.

HTH

I'm an Hull Fc fan, no hurt for me chuckle brother. On top of that I've got better eyesight than you & Bentham & can clearly see there's no 50/50 about it, he's offside.

Translation I`ll thscweem n thscweem until im thick until I get my way.......

Dream on muppet and read the Sunday papers.... they all say Well Done Rhinos 18-10 CHAMPIONS

Come back when your team even qualifies for the play offs 2025 maybe.

No, no, no, no hes not. His feet are behind the ball, it is plain to see when you watch the replays. You really need to get a grip and move on. Saints and neutrals alike. It is becoming pathetic now.

I've seen the replays. Doesn't change my view of what I saw at the match. He was offisde.

Thick or ignorant coming from someone who has done the same post three times without realising he can edit it!!!

Have you caught that damn mouse yet that everyone refers to but you haven't seen. Tricky things these PC thingies to yarkshire filk where electricity has just been discovered.

Even Stevo, that great lover of Leeds, is still saying it was offside.

In fact he says that the over pitch camera which was not available to BENTham was even more conclusive to the fact Smith was offside.

The reason we have not let this issue "go" IMO is not the fact we lost but because the whinos can't see that there was any doubt about it. Even Lee Smith says he wasn't absolutely certain either way.

I accept that if it had been the other way round, I would be extremely pleased but I would have also thought that we had been a bit lucky (as we were against bradford with the knock on / no knock on by withers). Unfortuntately to most leeds fans think that magnanimousness is some sort of alcoholic drink.