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| Quote: Smurf "Jesus.'"
Yeah, if he is available, let's give him a go
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| Quote: Duke Eddington "
Might be a good option, but difficult to show the half backs how he wants them to direct the team around with holes in his hands.
But if we've got to the point where people want to even consider the likes of Kear ( ) Noble and Morgan, then we all may as well give up and go home.
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| Quote: Mugwump "We don't need Andrew Johns. A [icompetent [/iscrum half is the difference between losing against Catalans, Huddersfield and Bradford and winning. Turn those three games around and we are in contention. All were lost because we had no option on tackle five. We panicked, the ball was given over cheaply and we lost.'"
For once I totally agree with your post, we just need a scrum half that can lead us around the park, give us direction and have a good kicking game.
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| Quote: Mugwump "There was very little wrong with our defence against Huddersfield. '"
You clearly didn't watch their final try then. The one we gave them with the generous grubber kick.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You clearly didn't watch their final try then. The one we gave them with the generous grubber kick.'"
Pretty much all tries can be attributed to defensive errors. But if you think there wasn't a significant improvement in our defence vs Huddersfield over our shoddy Catalans' performance you are either blind or mad.
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| Looks like we Bulls did you Royce-baggers a favour then?
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| Looks like your wishes have been granted. Not as if you've been hammered. Wonder who you will get mid season. A high risk decision IMO
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| Quote: Snoopy "Looks like your wishes have been granted. Not as if you've been hammered. Wonder who you will get mid season. A high risk decision IMO
Just because it's a temporary team does not mean they will be replaced mid-season. It maybe that they are in place until the new coach can take over, which maybe October.
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| I posted yesterday that to sack Royce would be the wrong decision. Ask yourselves will Mike Rush be better than Royce?
Royce Simmons took you to the Grand Final last year, in a season when you had more injuries than an A & E department on a Saturday night.
Super Mc has made a short sighted knee jerk decision.
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| Quote: Snoopy "Looks like your wishes have been granted. Not as if you've been hammered. Wonder who you will get mid season. A high risk decision IMO
I agree.
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| Doing nothing was just as risky a decision.
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| I have said elsewhere, Eamon delivered a top class stadium, the fans have delivered on season ticket purchases, it is on the pitch where the team have failed with the third piece of the jigsaw.
The players we have signed arent bad players, they may not be exactly what we need but the challenge for any coach is to get players playing better than they think they are capable of producing. The current crop aren't even performing anywhere near their capability and a change was the ONLY option. Eamon could hardly sack half a dozen players, his only option is to hold the coaching staff accountable.
The issue is that there are 14,000 people on the terraces that need to be kept happy just to keep the ship afloat financially in the long term. As a club we can't afford to suddenly drop back to 5000 season ticket renewals, that would be a business catastrophe, and unfortunately, it's not the losses that seem to have caused the most upset, it's been the manner of the performances, lack of cohesion, lack of unpredictability in their plays (take your pick!) which is within the remit of the head coach. I'm not saying the players aren't as responsible, they are, but ultimately they looked like a group of players who weren't playing for the coach, of didn't believe in what they were being asked to do.
It will be interesting to see what kind of response we get from the squad this weekend against Leeds, certainly a good game to test players desire. I suspect the squad have been told that they too are under the microscope and are playing for their futures.
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| Quote: The Chief "I have said elsewhere, Eamon delivered a top class stadium, the fans have delivered on season ticket purchases, it is on the pitch where the team have failed with the third piece of the jigsaw.
The players we have signed arent bad players, they may not be exactly what we need but the challenge for any coach is to get players playing better than they think they are capable of producing. The current crop aren't even performing anywhere near their capability and a change was the ONLY option. Eamon could hardly sack half a dozen players, his only option is to hold the coaching staff accountable.
The issue is that there are 14,000 people on the terraces that need to be kept happy just to keep the ship afloat financially in the long term. As a club we can't afford to suddenly drop back to 5000 season ticket renewals, that would be a business catastrophe, and unfortunately, it's not the losses that seem to have caused the most upset, it's been the manner of the performances, lack of cohesion, lack of unpredictability in their plays (take your pick!) which is within the remit of the head coach. I'm not saying the players aren't as responsible, they are, but ultimately they looked like a group of players who weren't playing for the coach, of didn't believe in what they were being asked to do.
It will be interesting to see what kind of response we get from the squad this weekend against Leeds, certainly a good game to test players desire. I suspect the squad have been told that they too are under the microscope and are playing for their futures.'"
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| Quote: The Chief "I have said elsewhere, Eamon delivered a top class stadium, the fans have delivered on season ticket purchases, it is on the pitch where the team have failed with the third piece of the jigsaw.
The players we have signed arent bad players, they may not be exactly what we need but the challenge for any coach is to get players playing better than they think they are capable of producing. The current crop aren't even performing anywhere near their capability and a change was the ONLY option. Eamon could hardly sack half a dozen players, his only option is to hold the coaching staff accountable.
The issue is that there are 14,000 people on the terraces that need to be kept happy just to keep the ship afloat financially in the long term. As a club we can't afford to suddenly drop back to 5000 season ticket renewals, that would be a business catastrophe, and unfortunately, it's not the losses that seem to have caused the most upset, it's been the manner of the performances, lack of cohesion, lack of unpredictability in their plays (take your pick!) which is within the remit of the head coach. I'm not saying the players aren't as responsible, they are, but ultimately they looked like a group of players who weren't playing for the coach, of didn't believe in what they were being asked to do.
It will be interesting to see what kind of response we get from the squad this weekend against Leeds, certainly a good game to test players desire. I suspect the squad have been told that they too are under the microscope and are playing for their futures.'"
Great post.
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| Quote: The Chief "snip'"
Couldn't have put it better myself. During the Hull game myself and those around me ended up talking about everything else but what was happening on the pitch, it was dire. It was certainly unlike me, but if the 'die-hards' are doing it, what must the new season ticket holders be thinking?
McManus had to act, and he was left in a pretty impossible position. Keeping/losing those new fans is the difference between a stable future and a bleak one, he delivered his side of the deal and he needed to make an example to show them that what is currently happening is unacceptable.
I feel bad for Royce, but something had to happen and other than firing half the squad which would be ridiculous, McManus has taken the only other realistic option.
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