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1649_1338292262.jpg I have followed the LONDON CLUB since I was in my teensl even though born in St Helens and still live nearby and went to the first game at Fulham, also Big West Ham Supporter:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1649.jpg |
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| Quote: Don Brennan "Could you explain that bit,because I cant tie It In with his suspension by the board and a couple of thinly disguised comments by the chairman.'"
I just Hope that the St Helens Board will stand by the suspension, a decision which I respected, even if we don't know all the facts! in my opinion an apology from Eastmond again! will not be sufficient, the only team he should play in again if he does is the reserves.
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| Quote: jaybs "a decision which I respected, even if we don't know all the facts!'"
How bizarre.
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18821_1298880800.jpg [quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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| Quote: jaybs "I just Hope that the St Helens Board will stand by the suspension, a decision which I respected, even if we don't know all the facts! in my opinion an apology from Eastmond again! will not be sufficient, the only team he should play in again if he does is the reserves.'"
I think the only thing Saints will have to stand by Is employment law.
Unfortunately I reckon he'll be on a warning. Wether he gets a start at first team level will be Royce's decision.
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| Quote: Don Brennan "Unfortunately I reckon he'll be on a warning. Wether he gets a start at first team level will be Royce's decision.'"
That's what I reckon too. I doubt we have grounds to sack him outright.
The very fact he's been suspended makes his position in the team untenable though, he's a bigger bogeyman with the fans now than he was before the ban (and he was a pretty decent bogeyman then!)
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| Quote: FearTheVee "That's what I reckon too. I doubt we have grounds to sack him outright.'" If they did, they would've by now.
We'll probably give him the choice. We could continue to pay his contract until it finishes, but not involve him, or terminate the contract by mutual agreement, allowing him to join up with bath, or an intermediate club.
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10110.jpg To be beaten is a setback - to give up is terminal:10110.jpg |
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| I think a warning as you say is the minimum but the employer can, on the basis of assessing that his behaviour has brought him/business into disrepute, make a more robust call and dismiss. Of couse there could be a tribunal but then that gets messy but I thik it would stick given the nature of the business and its relationship to its customers.
Likely a final warning then fester on the bench for me.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "If they did, they would've by now.'"
Not necessarily - it took about 5/6 days from Millward being suspended before he was sacked, and I'd venture that was pretty fast.
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| Quote: Legman "I think a warning as you say is the minimum but the employer can, on the basis of assessing that his behaviour has brought him/business into disrepute, make a more robust call and dismiss. Of couse there could be a tribunal but then that gets messy but I thik it would stick given the nature of the business and its relationship to its customers.
Likely a final warning then fester on the bench for me.'"
Why waste a bench spot if he is not going to play in the first team. He has lost his first team place now so he can be made to play in the lower team and told he needs to earn his spot back if he wants to play for us again in the first team. You can't drop someone whose playing reasonably well to accommodate him.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Not necessarily - it took about 5/6 days from Millward being suspended before he was sacked, and I'd venture that was pretty fast.'"
Mmmm, I guess its not been that long, but if they're going to get rid, then there must be a case of gross misconduct, which is normally pretty cut and dry.
Maybe McManus is going to make one of his famous announcements at the game on Friday night?
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| Quote: Agent Mulder "Why waste a bench spot if he is not going to play in the first team. He has lost his first team place now so he can be made to play in the lower team and told he needs to earn his spot back if he wants to play for us again in the first team. You can't drop someone whose playing reasonably well to accommodate him.'"
I meant bench in the wider sense - not necessarily sat on it.
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| Play him Centre or wing or fullback if he actually hasn't done anything wrong.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Play him Centre or wing or fullback if he actually hasn't done anything wrong.'"
Eastmond's best games for saints have been at so I would stick him there for the rest of the season
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| ............but what about the 'Meli for centre' campaigners, I know we can drop Shenton.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "How bizarre.'"
If you think the complete attitude that he has shown towards you Loyal supporters is as I quote "HOW BIZARRE" then that's your problem, when I stated that we do not know all the facts, that related to there were several "rumours" of other incidents, which St Helens RFLC did not confirm or deny until fully investigated, what is wrong with that is beyond me???
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| Quote: Legman "I meant bench in the wider sense - not necessarily sat on it.'"
Perhaps use him AS the bench?
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