Unlike our forwards?

I bet all our forwards played more games than mossop and SOL over the past two years.

Mossop had a bad year in Aus last year but in his last two seasons at Wigan he played 26 and 24. O'Loughlin played 27 and 21 in that same period

Last season O'Loughlin played 23 games.

I guess that wouldn't be too much different to the likes of Wilkin, Amor and Flanagan (certainly last season)

Mossop`s a poor player

Correct. I'd also reserve jumping to the conclusion Wigan aren't up to much because of a pres eason friendly.

The problem with a match like this, between two quite even sides, is that when one turns up more focussed than the other (for what ever reason), they walk away with it.
I don't like picking a derby match for a friendly for exactly this reason. it cheapens it imo.

I was, however, surprised that it was us that turned up to play and not Wigan. They've been a more ruthless side over the past few seasons and I thought they'd have a real stick up their about the GF loss.

I dn't agree with this, but there may be a real argument that his periods of very good form have been reasonably short.

I've never really seen the big thing with mossop myself tbh. Don't get me wrong he's a decent player but nothing to shout about

Good points, and something that Shaun Wane has alluded to in his post match interview on Wigan t.v. and so did Dom Crosby.They said that Saints were the more enthusiastic and deserved their win.

As I have said on the Wigan board, I was surprised at how big both muscle and body fat wise Saints were. Cunningham seems to have them in fantastic shape for RL.They completely dominated the collision. I think anyone would be lying if they say they weren't impressed by the nature of Sts win yesterday, the first 40 was clinical. I said to my dad when it was 10-0 the scoreline would flatter us if it was to stay the same at half time.

Don't be too down heartened.

You've got to at least make defences respect the possibility of the short play. Wigan cannot persist with just constant second man plays. Saints have figured it out. What's worse is that the lesser quality of your props means Saints, in particular, just don't fear your threat in the middle. I have no doubt that Saints now think if they defend the constant two man plays well, then Wigan are putty in their hands, especially because you can't stop us from rolling you backwards at present.

You'll still butcher the lesser sides in the league who don't have the patience or discipline to compete with Wigan. I'm not convinced you'll be winning anything though.

I seen robes just after Xmas and looked like he'd put some beef on.

I didn't go the two games, does he look bigger ?

How will you watch it again? Is a recording accessible somewhere ? That'd be great if you could point me in the right direction.

Quote: Roy Haggerty "How will you watch it again? Is a recording accessible somewhere ? That'd be great if you could point me in the right direction.'" It'll be on Wigan t.v. The 2 minute highlights and interviews with Wane and Crosby are up now. If it's like the Leigh game the full match will be up either later today or tomorrow. tv.wiganwarriors.com/ Check my post on here. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=577491

Quote: Roy Haggerty "How will you watch it again? Is a recording accessible somewhere ? That'd be great if you could point me in the right direction.'" It'll be on Wigan t.v. The 2 minute highlights and interviews with Wane and Crosby are up now. If it's like the Leigh game the full match will be up either later today or tomorrow. tv.wiganwarriors.com/ Check my post on here. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=577491

There were 3 incidents in the match with leading in with knees, Crosby on Walmsley, Tomkins on Lomax and Farrell on Percival.

Tomkins and Farrell were also trying to workover Burns, but Travis wasn,t having it and gave some back.

I've seen the Crosby one again. Nothing in it he just slips. It was on Makinson who had collected the ball from the kick off. The rest of game isn't on yet so I can't comment on the others, but as I always say, they'll be reviewed by the committee in the next few days, so let them sort it out.