FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > St. Helens > Hull KR Match Thread
197 posts in 14 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star6668No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
52697_1334270708.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52697.jpg



Quote: Mugwump "You have.'"


Care to elaborate then?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member34No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Aug 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Mugwump "I think a lot our defensive problems stem from the scrum half position. A good half isn't only the playmaker and place kicker - he also sets the defensive pattern and controls the line.

Too many people are confusing Lomax's - admittedly good - attacking performances at scrum half with [ibeing a good scrum half[/i.'"



I slightly disagree with that due to that nowadays the scrum half generally defends at the centre position, meaning that player is away from doing much tackling. In doing that the scrum half is protected and while required to do the occassional bit of tackling he is able to focus most of his energy on leading the team attacking wise.

I think the forwards including the hooker set the defensive pattern. It's the centre of the field and it's always the starting point of any attacking move from the opposition. If the centre of the field moves up quick and gets into the faces of the pivots from the attacking team then there is more chance of any move breaking down. If you win the centre of the field then you have a good chance of winning the game, which is why a good set of forwards are a neccessity.

RankPostsTeam
International Star6668No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Jun 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
52697_1334270708.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52697.jpg



Quote: Mugwump "You have.'"


I see your point now, but I disagree.

In the modern game the defensive pattern in the of the field is set by the two Props, the Hooker and the Loose Forward. These players occupy the central channel and set themselves within it. Either side of them is where the Second Row defends, these set the pattern of the defensive channel out until the wingers who will then set how compact the defensive line is. The scrum half defends outside the Second Row and often outside the Centre. In the modern day game, the Scrum Half doesn't set the defensive line.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40218_1286737075.jpg
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg



Quote: Mugwump "I think a lot our defensive problems stem from the scrum half position. A good half isn't only the playmaker and place kicker - he also sets the defensive pattern and controls the line.

Too many people are confusing Lomax's - admittedly good - attacking performances at scrum half with [ibeing a good scrum half[/i.'"

Lomax was one of our best defenders yesterday. And he has no problem organising his part of the line - he defends from the centre position. What we needed was a fullback who could organise the defence, and cover it too, but Wello was very poor yesterday. While we allowed them too much room overall on the pitch, our goal line defence was particularly poor. But if memory serves most of their tries came from within the sticks area and not where Lomax was defending.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member17417No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2015Mar 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Transparent Backgrounds/Kermit%20the%20Frog.gif
Tweet from @martinoffiah 23/08/2011: 'Must admit i did love watching Saints- Cunningham Joynt Longy Tommy then Leon, last classic RL team ever'. Even the dark side can't help but love the rebellion.:Transparent Backgrounds/Kermit%20the%20Frog.gif



Quote: Billinge_Lump "Is he resting players?

Or is he giving everyone in the squad (who are likely to be a regular first teamer) a chance to get up to match speed and stake a claim for a spot?'"


I am sure Simmons actually stated this was his plan in an interview over the past few weeks.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1343No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2014Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
52961_1317652331.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52961.jpg



Quote: Rommel "So everyone with a differant opinion to yours is clueless 4.4208984375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 KIT Thread
CM Punk
4
10m
New Players
jbuzza
139
17m
Accounts
Ckt2487
134
48m
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
56m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
58m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
59m
Film game
Boss Hog
5644
Recent
2024
imwakefieldt
6
Recent
Salford
TF and the w
13
Recent
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
199
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
54s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
55s
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
1m
Pre Season - 2025
RockNRolla
184
1m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
2m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
2m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
2m
Shopping list for 2025
mwindass
5578
2m
New Players
jbuzza
139
2m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
imwakefieldt
6
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
13
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
545
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
537
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1279
England's Women Demolish The W..
1107
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1349
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1136
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1405
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1939
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2153
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2395
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1963
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2201
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2666
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2097
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2170
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +12,113 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 KIT Thread
CM Punk
4
10m
New Players
jbuzza
139
17m
Accounts
Ckt2487
134
48m
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
56m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
58m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
59m
Film game
Boss Hog
5644
Recent
2024
imwakefieldt
6
Recent
Salford
TF and the w
13
Recent
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
199
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
54s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
55s
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
1m
Pre Season - 2025
RockNRolla
184
1m
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
2m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
2m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
2m
Shopping list for 2025
mwindass
5578
2m
New Players
jbuzza
139
2m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
imwakefieldt
6
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
13
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
545
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
537
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1279
England's Women Demolish The W..
1107
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1349
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1136
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1405
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1939
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2153
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2395
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1963
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2201
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2666
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2097
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2170


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!