Not really. As the guy posted, one rubbish team beating another. Like Leeds beating Leigh or Salford, Saints beating Leeds etc etc. If you had beaten the Pies or Cas you would have deserved credit. We are the cross of SL battling to avoid the middle 8's.

Saints are dire. But the majority of teams winning there early in the season, before total rot sets in, deserve some credit.

The trouble with you lot at St. Helens and the other so called top clubs is you've had too good for too long you've won everything for years ruled the roost in rl and had all the top players to watch ,you haven't even the good grace to give the so called smaller clubs a bit of credit when they bust a gut to get a win you've never had to watch a once mighty club like trinity fall from grace like we have and struggle for years with poor management but it can happen to any club look at Bradford so stop looking down on us and give a bit of credit .

Isn't it a bit condescending if we do that? I for one don't think for a minute that clubs like Wakefield have to do something spectacular to beat us anymore, in fact Wakey away is always a game I dread, even when we were good. If the video ref doesn't give that decision, I think Chester would have slated your players in the interview after the game, you weren't great.

I thought we were bad but losing to Wakefield is embarrassing.

Don't worry...........you are bad....... ..very bad in fact. ..........and very lucky to have 4 points on board . .... ....

Haha yeah right, we beat you at Headingley & finished above you in the league last year. You should sort out your own house before throwing stones on here!

This.......

You're absolutely right. Plenty of fans of smaller clubs are happy with the occasional win and think avoiding relegation is great. We don't. If Saints aren't competing for trophies, then we don't sit back and live off faded glories, we get angry and demand changes, because it's not good enough. It's perhaps that attitude which led us to win more games over the last 21 years than any other club. The day we sit back and say ''oh, we got beaten by a weak Leigh and Wakefield side. That's ok, well done them' is the day we stop being a top competitive club, and become one of the also-rans who make up the numbers without ever seriously challenging the winners.

If you're happy with mediocrity, and celebrate endless 'plucky' defeats, then good luck to you, because you won't be winning any trophies any time soon with that attitude. It's not good enough for St Helens.

So I'm not sure what your point is?

KNOB

When we beat Wigan by 60 odd points last season we got exactly the same 5h1te that you and Roy Haggerty are doling out now. Your guys tried their hardest, they lost, two points to us. Thank you.

To be fair to Roy Haggerty, Saints were rubbish. An empty shell of a team playing in a ground with zero atmosphere. The days of Saints being a top team in a cauldron-type atmosphere are long gone.

Wakefield played just fine and beat a rubbish uninspiring Saints side.

I can keep repeating how poor Saints are for as long as Roy wants. I'm fine with that. Wakefield fans enjoy their occasional triumphs because we know our limitations. I can't help thinking that Saints haven't been a good side, a fearsome side, since they left Knowsley Road. That place used to make the hairs stand up on the players' necks, and supporters. Not anymore. It's no surprise that the players don't feel quite as inspired as they once did.

Saints are garbage that's why Wakey won the game simple as Wakey are not a good side just as they were not a good side when they beat Saints at Oakwell. Hay ho Saints have had some good sides just as Wakey have but eventually the tide turns and it looks like it has turned for Saints just as it looks like its turning for Wakey. Saints on a downer and Wakey on the up who the hell scripted that one its not allowed Wakey going to Saints and coming away with a win.

Maybe your luck's changed since you gave your stadium that freaking stupid name!

Wakey on the way up ? One win in 12 games?