It will come back on flower but.....


This is again a club I do not recognise. I pointed out the fact Saints declined Peyroux the opportunity to fly home to see the birth of his child. He asked and the club basically laughed at him. Now this. Yet no doubt if it was a Jonny old boy from the old boys club the club would roll out the red carpet.

Were a disgrace at the minute, on field and off.

Strong statement from Saints there. As an outsider I have absolutely no idea what the truth is but reading between the lines it seems Lance hasn't taken it further because he'd have trouble proving the club has done anything wrong.

It's not hard to imagine a situation where Lance ignores/doesn't tell the club the truth about his symptoms because he doesn't want to be stood down or forced to retire. Saints then push him to play following tests that were clear. He feels differently as he has symptoms.

Hopefully there are no long term impacts on Lance's health. Worth remembering in all this that it was Ben Flower and Ben Flower alone that caused this and if anyone should face court action it's him.

Here here. He's almost treated like a hero now by some on the commentary, simply because he hasn't decked anyone already unconscious recently. Well done Ben!

Great reply from Saints thou I like that

Agree. That's twice in one night! Then again I'm in hospital with the missus as we're expecting our 1st child. Maybe it's the tiredness setting in...

Always thought it funny how Lance didn't say a proper goodbye to the fans, he just vanished from the club and Saints put that very confusing statement out.

Good luck with the birth mate, I feel for you, it's proper hard work labour, and can be quite painful especially if you have to keep rubbing her back through the contractions. My feet ached like mad too. I was absolutely knackered after it

Interesting to read some of the comments from this bored about Ben flower but if you do care to read the whole article it was also due to concussions in the following games he played on and was allowed to stay on the pitch,instead of being taken off which would not of helped to compound the problem. Whilst no RL fan condones what Flower did it cannot be solely placed at the incident in the Grand final match. As the well fair of players has got better and better you must ask the question why was he allowed by medical staff to play on so soon... Where it was the players idea to continue to play on or the clubs is open to debate but it should not turn into a witch hunt again for any player regardless of club this is not because I am a Wigan fan but I'm a RL fan too and there are always two sides to every story...... I know I'll get plenty Sts and other fans having a go but so be it and in no way do I defend Ben Flowers actions on that night....

It's upto Sts and Lance now to decide what each wants to do as the accusations are about Sts handling of him and not the Ben Flower incident as Lance states in the interview.

It very much suggests that the RFL guidelines for COG tests on rare incidents (Ben Flower) like these are not suitable for possible brain damage occurrence. Lance didn't play a full impact game until nearly 4 months after the event and if he had any serious concerns he would have retired by then with or without any club medical advice, instead he alone decided to "man up" and play but got concussed in his first competitive game.
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At the end of the day he didn't have this problem before the grand final and the root clause is Ben Flower who was very close to creating a fatality and a manslaughter charge, that could be in the back of his mind for the rest of his career.
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We wish Lance well whatever course he takes, no one should go through such downward forced impact on the skull whilst unconscious.

Judder man very close to a libellous statement saying Flower was close to creating a fatality and manslaughter charge !!!! Read the article his issue is his treatment from Sts and I agree the RFL guidelines re COG tests should be re looked at and maybe use the RU way they stop players from playing like they have with Mike Brown and George North due to concussion.

This could open up a bigger can of worms! when any response is made you have to tread real careful, once it is in the public arena these days that is it!

If Lance has become neurologically impaired because of the incident I think he should look at damages compensation primary with the root cause if proven with Ben Flower and secondary with St Helens RFC for the aftercare. Its accepted by all players that it is a high impact sport with risks, but the last punch was way beyond trying to dress it up within the rules of rugby, it was just common assault and should have been treated as such.
Maybe Lance obviously has had lots of time to think over the matter and wants to go down this route, I,m sure a legal team would be able to create a strong case both primary and secondary.

Goulding pipping up on twitter...not like him is it, honest guv.

He was hardly picked after his head injury anyway was he ?

He shouldn't have been picked before the head injury according to plenty on here.