I thought it was symptomatic of Saints whole season - Positives were great guts and character, a usually good kicking game and a good scrambling defence. Negatives were not quite enough go-forward from the pack (I suspect the stats will show we made fewer metres per carry than Leeds), and just a lack of attacking penetration. Even when we had some possession in the Leeds twenty, we rarely looked particularly dangerous to their line. Whereas when Leeds looked capable of putting together a score from a much bigger area of the pitch.

It's the attack we need sorting out next year. We need to find ways of better using Percival's elusive pace, and creating more space for Swift. But we also need to take a leaf out of Leeds's book and try to develop more of an offloading support game in the middle. A few times, particularly in the first half, we got a forward with his hands clear in the tackle, but there were no runners coming through for the offload.

On the night, a fair result (maybe without the last try which was just a bit silly and unrepresentative). Walsh is probably feeling a bit gutted about missing the conversion right now, though.

It's all very well fans praising effort but this Saints side has no punch or flair in attack.

Yup. They are brave, solid and professional. Missing that couple of dangerous individuals that can win games.

Compared to who? Leeds were hardly playing like something off a different planet. Thought our pack shut them down and we consistently made yards going forward. They had an edge in the backs - but what do you expect with Makinson struggling, Percy cross-eyed etc.

You can't claim we are inferior when the supposed talent is at best level pegging.

Some monster performances tonight.

Sounds more like Huddersfield.

Saints have match winners like Makinson, Percival and Roby but they didn't quite get it over the ling tonight. The positive when compared to Huddersfield or even Leeds is there's plenty of development in this Saints side. Guys like Swift, Percival and Savelio will go from strength to strength and I'd expect Lomax to come back and add some threat from the back (after a positive start I think Quinlan has actually held you back a little).

You'll be in the hunt for trophies for a number of seasons in my opinion.

you lost and blamed the video ref, classless unlike a lot of posters on here

Sorry Old Bean, just following traditional British response when challenged by one's inferiors..

Ah well, just not your year.

And what? It's my opinion. It isn't changing. Deal with it.

and nothing, deal with what? looking forward to next saturday, btw i thought Garbutt was the best forward on the pitch

Leeds had a 39 year old and a 38 year old playing prop for 70 minutes. Leeds won, having already won the Challenge Cup and finishing above us. It's hard to say they don't deserve to be ahead of us in the hunt for trophies.

We're talking small margins here. We lost that this season and we'll lose it next season as our squad is weaker. Throw a Lyon, Long, Sculthorpe or Eastmond type in there and we win rather than lose.