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| Another tonking would be a disaster for me. Not only would it leave us out of the cup, but there's a very real chance we're going to end up with a Saints - Leeds GF again this year and another runners up medal to them would be a bitter pill to swallow.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Another tonking would be a disaster for me. Not only would it leave us out of the cup, but there's a very real chance we're going to end up with a Saints - Leeds GF again this year and another runners up medal to them would be a bitter pill to swallow.'"
I can't see a tonking from either team to be honest, the two regular season games will count for nothing on friday, it's a 50/50 for mine just hope it's a good game.
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| Saints' 17 will come from:
3. Jordan Turner, 4. Josh Jones, 5. Adam Swift, 6. Travis Burns, 7. Luke Walsh, 8. Mose Masoe, 9. James Roby, 10. Kyle Amor, 11. Atelea Vea, 13. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 14. Alex Walmsley, 15. Mark Flanagan, 17. Mark Percival, 18. Luke Thompson, 19. Greg Richards, 21. Joe Greenwood, 22. Matty Dawson, 25. Andre Savelio, 37. Adam Quinlan.
Brian McDermott will choose his Leeds side from:
1. Zak Hardaker, 2. Tom Briscoe, 3. Kallum Watkins, 4. Joel Moon, 5. Ryan Hall, 6. Danny McGuire, 7. Rob Burrow, 8. Kylie Leuluai, 9. Paul Aiton, 10. Jamie Peacock, 11. Jamie Jones-Buchanan, 12. Carl Ablett, 13. Kevin Sinfield, 15. Brett Delaney, 17. Adam Cuthbertson, 19. Brad Singleton, 20. Jimmy Keinhorst, 27. Ash Handley, 30. Mitch Garbutt.
1 Quinlan
2 Dawson
3 Percival
4 Turner
5 Swift
6 Burns
7 Walsh
8 Walmsley
9 Roby
10 Amor
11 Greenwood
12 Vea
13 LMS
14 Masoe
15 Savelio
16 Jones
17 Flanagan
Richards hasn't performed particularly well against the top teams so far this year, and I think we only need 4 props. Keeping Richards out means the likes of Masoe, Walmsley and Amor will be on the field for more of the game. As much as I rate Thompson, I think he hasn't progressed as much as hoped this season. It's understandable, he is only 20 after all, but Flash is the right option for this match IMO. Thompson has played once in the last 7 weeks, and it showed against Hull KR. Flash is a bit more mobile which will help with Leeds offloading game, and he also misses dramatically less tackles - one every 16 tackles compared to one every 9 tackles with Thompson.
I'd say Leeds are slight favourites, but I can't see it being as easy for them as the previous 2 fixtures.
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| Quote: Saint #1 "Richards hasn't performed particularly well against the top teams so far this year, and I think we only need 4 props. Keeping Richards out means the likes of Masoe, Walmsley and Amor will be on the field for more of the game. As much as I rate Thompson, I think he hasn't progressed as much as hoped this season. It's understandable, he is only 20 after all, but Flash is the right option for this match IMO. Thompson has played once in the last 7 weeks, and it showed against Hull KR. Flash is a bit more mobile which will help with Leeds offloading game, and he also misses dramatically less tackles - one every 16 tackles compared to one every 9 tackles with Thompson.'"
You should start one of Jones or Flash, that way you've got someone fitter to do the running around in defence from the off.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "You should start one of Jones or Flash, that way you've got someone fitter to do the running around in defence from the off.'"
Fair point, possibly start Jones and have LMS on the bench. However, given how badly we've started the last two games against Leeds, I think it might be worth having our strongest possible team starting. After the first 20 minutes it's been 18-0 in both matches. If we have our strongest team to ride out that opening 20, we can keep with them for the rest of the game.
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| Quote: Saint #1 "Fair point, possibly start Jones and have LMS on the bench. However, given how badly we've started the last two games against Leeds, I think it might be worth having our strongest possible team starting. After the first 20 minutes it's been 18-0 in both matches. If we have our strongest team to ride out that opening 20, we can keep with them for the rest of the game.'"
I would start Jones, he's one of our form players at the moment playing with a new lease of life now he's settled his future. Walsh and Burns need to tighten up there defence in the first quarter to stop Leeds passing out wide early doors. Its a cup game, which tells me this could be a tight, tactical game in the first half, we need to keep our errors and penalty concedes to a minimum.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "I think that your pack will be far too strong for Leeds on the night.
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Far too strong is disrespectful. I don't know how you get to that opinion tbh, we have 5 quality props with a couple of handy back rowers.
It going to be a ding dong battle and Saints' pack may well get the edge this time around, but I really cannot see it as badly as you've put it.
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| This year we have a front row that can compete with any other team's in the superleague.
Some people reinterpret that to - We have a front row that will dominate the opposition of any other team.
"Compete with" and "dominate" are not the same thing.
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| All I ask is that we are not 18 points down after quarter of an hour!!
Leeds will no doubt go hard and fast in the first 20 mins, if we can stick with them early on, I will be pretty confident that we will go on to win.
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| Early good start for saints and it will be an arm wrestle of a game. I predict lots of 2 point penalties been scored
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| If we win I think it will be tight score line but if leeds win I think we in for big score on us.
My head says 38-10 leeds but my heart says 24-18 saints.
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| Quote: RhinoNeil "Far too strong is disrespectful. I don't know how you get to that opinion tbh, we have 5 quality props with a couple of handy back rowers.
It going to be a ding dong battle and Saints' pack may well get the edge this time around, but I really cannot see it as badly as you've put it.'"
Just think that the saints pack will be thinking that they owe you one so to speak and they will be looking to put right the previous losses.
Not being disrespectful just an opinion. A Leeds win obviously wouldn't be a surprise but on this occasion I just feel that Saints may just want it that little bit more.
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| Oh ffs. Try to Leeds in first 5 minutes again. Leeds look like they're in a different league. Can't stop offloads, look terrible within 20 metres of touchlines on both sides. This is awful. Awful.
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| Our three outside defenders on both sides are simply not good enough to defend against the Leeds backs. Our only chance is for the pack to become dominant and deny Leeds the space, but not much sign of that now.
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| And for Christ's sake get LMS off. He's lost the all three times now, twice in our only try scoring opportunities. Get him off.
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