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Quote: Offside Monkey "So we've signed a guy who can play wing, centre or back row. This seems like a direct replacement for the departing Josh Jones.

This is not our marquee signing. He's a big, fast, fit guy. He's not a kid. I say welcome aboard.'"


Does sound as though he replaces Jones and appears better quality.

We might be using Roby as our marquee signing, if not then perhaps a big prop to replace Mose.

With the possibilty of going to 8 substitutions next season we might see less impact props, so maybe the club have managed to revalue the situation and will go for a long minutes prop..

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Quote: Judder Man "Does sound as though he replaces Jones and appears better quality.

We might be using Roby as our marquee signing, if not then perhaps a big prop to replace Mose.

With the possibilty of going to 8 substitutions next season we might see less impact props, so maybe the club have managed to revalue the situation and will go for a long minutes prop..'"

I know just the guy #ginger

Seriously though, it would have to be quite a prop to deserve our marquee spot in front o Alex Walmsley.

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Quote: LFC Saint "Last season Grand final winners. This season 1 point off top spot and a Semi Final in the challenge cup to look forward too. This proves that our squad is currently doing well.'"


Under the old system you couldn't use the league table to judge teams, as many of them didn't approach the regular season games with full intensity. That's why the likes of Huddersfield and Cas had good years.

I'm not suggesting we're terrible, far from it. We've got a really solid squad and will do okay. But in terms of winning trophies I think we'll be a little off the mark this year and next. We're not on par with Leeds and although we're a better side than Wigan or Warrington, they've made big signings to change that. Like McManus is no doubt doing, you keep referring to the fact we won the GF. It wasn't a fluke, it was a magnificent achievement, but one that was a 1 in 100 chance and not because we had the best team. We seem to be treading water with the squad rather than trying to improve it and that's a dangerous thing to do in sport. We could very quickly find ourselves behind Wigan in the pecking order if ST works out for them and also Warrington who, if they pull off the signings they have in the pipeline, will be a vastly improved side. None of the signings we've made will improve us and they'll have to do well to keep us at the level we're at now.

Also major doubts about our key positions as well. Fullback next season anyone? 6 and 7 a concern? Lacking form and confidence this season and have one year left and look likely to leave at the same time, with no academy prospects on the horizon. Roby although magnificent, now over 30 with no successor/foil at the club. There is a lot of work coming in terms of the squad and it's not the time for McManus to be kicking back.

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Quote: Saddened! "Also major doubts about our key positions as well. Fullback next season anyone? 6 and 7 a concern?.'"
Kyle Eastmond in!

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A return to RL for Kyle I wish him well but I'd assume it will be similar to Harris when he returned.

A fast skilful player when he left but they rarely come back and set the world on fire.

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Quote: bewareshadows "A return to RL for Kyle I wish him well but I'd assume it will be similar to Harris when he returned.

A fast skilful player when he left but they rarely come back and set the world on fire.'"


Harris was never the fastest of players when he was in league and totally lost all his pace in Union but don't foeget he was getting on in years then.

Kyle Eastmond had natural pace, he is likd poo off a shovel over 15 meters and looking at him now, he still has that explosive pace off the mark and maybe even quicker! He's still young lad, Hes playing with a top team in bath and is still knocking on the door for england Union.

I think kyle would take few month to settle back into league and then he will be a top super league player. When you have explosive pace from a stand still and low centre of gravity he will always cause teams problems. You can also add to that the fact he's got good hands, he's physically well built.

He'd be a top quality signing for any team in rugby league but a expensive one.

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Could the club change the guys name? Call him Dom Peyroux and not tell Sky or anyone else that he has a girls name?

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Quote: Saddened! "
Also major doubts about our key positions as well. Fullback next season anyone? 6 and 7 a concern? Lacking form and confidence this season and have one year left and look likely to leave at the same time, with no academy prospects on the horizon. Roby although magnificent, now over 30 with no successor/foil at the club. There is a lot of work coming in terms of the squad and it's not the time for McManus to be kicking back.'"


Starting with 6 and 7 - they won't be leaving at the same time - Walsh end of next year, Burns the year after. With regards next year, I dont think I have any concerns. Yes its been softly softly with Walsh, but hopefully he can now sting a good number of games together between now and the end of the season, and a full preseason, he can easily be back to his best. I quite like Burns, yes hes not the superstar he was built up to be before arriving, but he won us the game last week. Richardson is rumouredly looking ready to step up as well, so claiming otherwise is just plain wrong on your behalf - just because he hasnt had a Gaskell style build up (which is actually a good thing) doesnt mean hes not there. Were also in the ears of Hampshire and Gilmore who are ooc along with Walsh too.

full back is a concern, yes. But with the amount of cap tied up in Lomax and SMD, we cannot justify bringing in another. Youd have to say though, should Lomax get another serious injury it will be retirement, which means we could loan Quinlan for the year icon_biggrin.gif

Charnock looked good as a Roby stand-in, and we should get a better look this week. We also have Smith in the academy who was the England academy hooker iirc, and Jonah Cunningham who ... well, has a lot to live up to...

Im not concerned, and in Peryoux we now have a bit more depth in the back 5 then we have had in a good while. Another prop and I'm very happy with the squad for next year!

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Nobody can say if it's good or bad signing as nobody if they being honest can recall seeing him play or heard of him.

I watch the NRL every week and watched every game of the World Cup and don't recall him at all but we will have to wait and see

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Quote: St pete "Nobody can say if it's good or bad signing as nobody if they being honest can recall seeing him play or heard of him.

I watch the NRL every week and watched every game of the World Cup and don't recall him at all but we will have to wait and see'"


Doesn't that give an indication though? He's 27 in Jan and hasn't established himself as a first grade player, let alone a first 17 player. I'm sure he'll be solid enough, but I'm not expecting anything positive.

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Quote: Saddened! "Doesn't that give an indication though? He's 27 in Jan and hasn't established himself as a first grade player, let alone a first 17 player. I'm sure he'll be solid enough, but I'm not expecting anything positive.'"


It hardly matters, George Carmont only made his first grade debut when he was 26. He could turn out to be anything, and especially in an inferior competition.

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Quote: Saddened! "Doesn't that give an indication though? He's 27 in Jan and hasn't established himself as a first grade player, let alone a first 17 player. I'm sure he'll be solid enough, but I'm not expecting anything positive.'"


I know it's nothing new, but some of the stuff you come out with is hilarious.

You say that he "seems a really poor signing to me" and then immediately say "I've never seen him play". You couldn't make it up!!

I had never seen Vea play before he signed for us. But, at the start of the year, you could argue that he was one of the top second rowers in the comp. Before he got injured, the anti-Saints mob that make up the Sky Sports commentary team, where even saying that he could turn out to be one of the best signings by any club this season.

We might not have the best team in the comp, but what we do have is the best academy in the country. I know you probably don't like that, but it's true.

And your silly little attacks on McManus are not only ridiculous, but highly disrespectful. "Doing it on the cheap". What a joke!!! We spend the same as all the other top clubs spend, which is the maximum amount. Wello had to retire so that we could take his wage off the cap in order to bring in Quinlan. That tells you that we spend the full cap.

I have no concerns at all about our squad for next season. We have some great prospects moving up from the academy (probably something that you don't know much about).

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Quote: Saddened! "Warrington who, if they pull off the signings they have in the pipeline, will be a vastly improved side.'"


That has been said about Warrington for as long as I can remember. When did they last win the championship?

Quote: Saddened! "There is a lot of work coming in terms of the squad and it's not the time for McManus to be kicking back.'"


Another personal attack on the chairman!

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Quote: saint87 "We might not have the best team in the comp ...'"


Until someone takes the SL title away from us I beg to differ.

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Quote: saint87 "I know it's nothing new, but some of the stuff you come out with is hilarious.

You say that he "seems a really poor signing to me" and then immediately say "I've never seen him play". You couldn't make it up!!'"


If you were educated, you would know what the word "seems" means in that context. You would then realise what I put is perfectly acceptable. We're signing a player here who isn't good enough for the NRL. We've let Josh Jones go for him and I'll bet he's on no less than what Jones wanted.

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