We've not played well this year apart from salford away and Warrington home. We rely on the same players week after week while others don't pull their weight.

Agreed mate.tbh I'm not as knowledgeable about rugby as some but I want to be entertained at least.i thought the Salford game was the best performance this year.other than that I can't say I've been overjoyed.i remember reading a post a while ago I think you said we were missing a trick not having long more involved at pitch side instead of sitting on kc knee.couldnt agree more.

And yet, until last season am I right in thinking the only time we had lost there was in 2007? We had one of the better records there.

The problem with your premise is that today's game is not a one off. The poor discipline and poor tackling and one up rugby has been a theme all season.

I agree. I could forgive us when we had no halves again but we have to very good halves now and still don't look like playing good free flowing rugby.

Our defence has been shocking since the Souths game.

You should recruit an Ape to coach you. It works for some.

Well I was wrong. Moon Head has blamed the young players this week. He's done what I HATE a coach doing and criticised players publicly and openly said a few of them will be lucky to play in the next few weeks.

He has much to learn this bloke. Just don't pick them, Don't tell the world you are not going to.

One of these days you may just grow a pair and say you got it wrong Keiron.

what are cunningham and longy doing exactly?...there's not 1 move in this team ..just barge..barge..barge.that richards is a liability with his handling errors and giving away penalties... they want to send him out on loan (then not ask for him back) but he'll be picked next week..the tackling at times is a joke and i can't see them shifting the pies from second now..just a mediocre side now i'm afraid!

I must confess, I don't like that either. I would prefer a coach to be 100% behind his team, particularly his young players, in public.

The bit I find worrying is that this reminds me of when KC and Rush took over. We played Leeds and Warrington and were fantastic, and then settled into boring mediocrity. We were fantastic for the first few games of this season, and have now become boring and average. We can no longer blame injuries, or having no halfs. There are no excuses.

Well i'd assume a few would have been left out for next week anyway. I honestly didn't think we played that badly. That said, the tackling is woeful! Why do we insist on going high on everyone? It's the first thing you learn, tackle the legs! Second man in go for the man and ball, but first tackler grab his bloody legs!

It's not like that anymore mate. Plsyers are coached to make the play the ball slow as possible by getting 3 in the tackle, the 3rd man will go around the legs.

If the first man takes his legs, it gives the man with the ball a better chance to win a quick play the ball.

Oh, that plan works really well! Maybe if they had the strength and agility to make man and ball tackle it would work, but we dont, so it doesnt

All teams are coached that way in super league and NRL. They see it as the whole game is based on who wins the play the ball.

Take some responsibility yourself kc.your coaching is crap and boring and you have brought nothing different to this team.why on earth is long defence coach.he should be sorting the attack considering he was one of the best attackers we have had.mid season kc was bragging that last season he was in charge of attack and set moves.well guess what kc.it was boring last year as well. Rant over.have a nice everyone.

I think the job come a year early for KC. Ideally Brown would have done his final year and give KC another year to learn the trade.

I like to see coaches come thru the ranks if I'm honest. Maybe coach the 16s, move up to 19s, become assistant and then get the top job. Being an assistant is totally different than being first team coach.

I was of the view when his appointment was announced that it was too early to appoint Cunningham. However, I don't think another year under Brown is what he needed. What he needs is a couple of years under a couple more coaches with different styles. But even then he might have turned out to be a poor coach. A great player does not equate to a great or even moderately good coach.