I agree with the first two points made above but I thought the decision to go for two was the correct call in the situation.

There was plenty of time left and we got back in field position but an error led to them regaining possession and going through a massive hole in the line.

If we kept our composure there was at least the chance of a drop goal. But we knocked on.

In some circumstances I agree it would be correct, I don't think yesterday was one of them. We had made so many dumb errors throughout the game, we had nobody I would put my money on kicking a drop goal and we had struggled to break them down.

With regards to the hole, that was coming all game. Tommy's organisation of the defensive line was awful, all game players were looking back for which way to peel and it some cases he had his back turned to the line. He also sent 5 defenders to the blind side, marking only 3 men, for the play that Hull exposed our edges to score their first try. If he is to play Full Back long term he has an awful lot to learn.

We definitely missed wellens again. I agree about the organisation. I don't think FB is his best position anyway.

In regards to the DG Hohaia put one over against Leeds away once upon a time!

How long has Bailey trained with the first team?

It doesn't look like Hewitt is going to get a chance for some reason. Saints were missing 5 players who can all play in the halves...and they still wouldn't pick him. Brown didn't fancy him and neither does Cunningham. I don't know anything about him, but i imagine it's one of two things...the lads talented but is deemed to not be mentally (attitude?) up to it...or he's not got the required skill set, and therefore it doesn't matter what his attitude is like.

My point is, he's not getting picked for a reason so we're probably best just trying to make the best of what we have left.

What I do know is that once we've got a few lads back, we're going to be very difficult to beat.

To be fair to KC on the halves front you've got a lot of injuries in that position and if you went with Turner & Hohaia for the Wigan game then youve pretty much got to go same again for the 2nd game as Id be very suprised if Saints (same as other teams) got in any match training in between the 2 games, it'll have all been rehab work.

So introducing a new halfback partnership for the 2nd game would be virtually impossible.

I don't think Hewitt will be here much longer. His agent putting his name out there and Hes not happy which I totally understand.

The min I read the txt with the team, I knew Bailey was in for a rough time. It invited pressure on us on kicks.

I personally would have put flash second row and jones centre with Dawson on the wing. All first team players and in a game we needed the two points.

We couldn't understand once he was picked that he was shifted from his familiar full back position to one on the wing, big error on KC's part, you can do it with a centre to wing, Bailey looked very isolated and undecisive.

Makinson at full back struggled as well with the infamilarity of Ashworth and Baily in the backs, it just shows how the experience of Wellens can organise a back line.

KC hasn,t got many options to work on though, hopefully the return of Walsh, Wilkin and Percival will change all that. I see the media has jumped onto KC's comments, the fans need to give KC a bit of slack under the present circumstances, its his rookie year as head coach and mistakes will be made along the way.

As I understand it, Bailey hadn't trained with the first team prior to the game.

What,s the situation with Charnock is he injured or out of favour, I thought him or Hewitt would have been better suited to the less intensive Hull game.

The important point is that in three defeats we haven't thrown the towel in.

I'm not particularly bothered with the losses against Wigan and Wind Tunnell KR because both have decent backs who can pile up points quickly. The Hull performance was very disappointing because they are undoubtedly the worst side I've seen in Super League.

Thankfully, we've got a lot of points on the board early. I expected this trough. It happened last season. It's just not possible for any side to go through the entire season at top form. And we certainly don't want to be anywhere close to that at this precise point in the campaign.

If I do have one relatively minor criticism - it is that we haven't promoted as many young backs from the juniors as we have young forwards both at the end of last season and the beginning of this.

You really don't want to be picking kids completely out of the blue to prop up an injury ravaged first team. It's bad for their development. Perhaps we should have thought more about turning a sub slot over to a young back one in two or three games.

Of course, you can never predict injury crises in advance. But as "fast tracks" go ours looks decidedly two-speed with an autobahn turned over to props and back-row forwards and a measly dirt track for anything numbered one through seven.

It could be that KC & Long aren't particularly confident about this cohort of juniors.

I thought Brown said about Hewitt that he'd get chances this year, but with KC in charge this has changed.

Few weeks I've been told