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| Quote: St pete "The problem with robes, he will have to pass all the medical tests to play Friday.'"
Thompson passed them to play v Widnes after the Wakey game and he looked worse than Roby did to me.
I'm no expert but I reckon Roby will play.
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| Quote: SomersetSaint "Roby was concussed? Cant see that stopping him this week. Similarly, Burns played the whole game with what looked like a pretty sore cheek bone, but I reckon he will be out there too. Not sure about Vea, he looked pretty sore when he went off.'"
Vea clapped the fans at the end of the game, I can see him playing. Greenwood may be out there, and Walsh ... Well I'd never say never
Wellens is a bit of a blow. Hohaia had a really poor game until he moved to hooker last week - I'd feel really uncomfortable if that was a prolonged situation. Makinson would be the safest option, but I wouldn't want to lose him from the 3/4s because he's easily our best attacking threat. The back 5 seem a bit of a problem with Percival and Lomax out, and Dawson and Jones looking woeful/ out of form.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Thompson passed them to play v Widnes after the Wakey game and he looked worse than Roby did to me.
I'm no expert but I reckon Roby will play.'"
Robes will play I think but my point is, it's not down to him, it's down to medical team.
Heard anything on wello mate ?
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Vea clapped the fans at the end of the game, I can see him playing. Greenwood may be out there, and Walsh ... Well I'd never say never
Tommy has to play fullback if wello is out. It's a no Brainer Imo. Lance invites teams to kick high balls and he and swift are not the best on high balls.
Tommy doesn't bring much in terms of attack really, very rare he beats a man but is a worldclass finisher and that could cost us if we get one chance to finish it.
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| Quote: St pete "Robes will play I think but my point is, it's not down to him, it's down to medical team.
Heard anything on wello mate ?'"
Yeah I get your point mate. I'm sure if it was up to him it wouldn't even be up for discussion.
And no not yet mate. I hadn't been tipped off he'd been replaced in the 19 which is rare so it's a bit hush hush on that one.
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| I have to say we missed Wellens this week. Just goes to show speed is not everything. He just is so much more assured at fullback than any of the pretenders.
Keeps us at full strength in other back positions too.
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| Quote: St pete "Tommy doesn't bring much in terms of attack really, very rare he beats a man but is a worldclass finisher and that could cost us if we get one chance to finish it.'"
Unless it happens to be a great bomb which with his secure hands he catches and lands over the line to score the winning try of course. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I have to say we missed Wellens this week. Just goes to show speed is not everything. He just is so much more assured at fullback than any of the pretenders.
Keeps us at full strength in other back positions too.'"
Wellens has started to look poor at Full Back now. His positioning is no longer enough because he is that slow, he simply can't make up for it. If anybody with even a hint of footwork breaks through the line they will beat him one on one, it's like sticking a a back rower at the back. Kicks towards him are also starting to hit the turf with exponential regularity.
He was limited coming into the line anyway and now the play just dies in his hands, he can't bulldoze over a player nor can he beat them on the outside. I just don't think Wello is the answer anymore, having said that neither is Lance going off last week so we're stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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| Our constant injury crisis' are getting dull now. I mean, the first 4 times we lost half the squad, it was fun. Now, the 97th consecutive season this has happened, it is not funny anymore.
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "Our constant injury crisis' are getting dull now. I mean, the first 4 times we lost half the squad, it was fun. Now, the 97th consecutive season this has happened, it is not funny anymore.'"
That's modern day rugby league.
I literally can't remember the last time we got close to getting our first choice 17 out on the field. It must be a number of years now. Between us and Wakey on Friday there was something like 15 or 16 players missing.
The only side that seen to avoid an injury crisis most years is Leeds. They get the odd one here and there but they don't seem to hit a really bad trot. Luck or credit to their medical staff? Who knows!
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "Wellens has started to look poor at Full Back now. His positioning is no longer enough because he is that slow, he simply can't make up for it. If anybody with even a hint of footwork breaks through the line they will beat him one on one, it's like sticking a a back rower at the back. Kicks towards him are also starting to hit the turf with exponential regularity.
He was limited coming into the line anyway and now the play just dies in his hands, he can't bulldoze over a player nor can he beat them on the outside. I just don't think Wello is the answer anymore, having said that neither is Lance going off last week so we're stuck between a rock and a hard place.'"
I do agree. Last year, Wellens looked like he had really bulked up, and whilst it never quite made up for the loss of his speed, it made him really effective at a number of jobs (see the Leeds game at LP).
He seems to have completely lost that this year, and has been barged over the top of a couple of times already (vs Widnes springs to mind) - whilst I defended Wellens quite a bit last year, I can't help but feel we're approaching that mystical year too far territory.
That being said, he's still a better option than Hohaia at fullback.
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "Our constant injury crisis' are getting dull now. I mean, the first 4 times we lost half the squad, it was fun. Now, the 97th consecutive season this has happened, it is not funny anymore.'"
The worst case is what? Lomax, Percival, Burns, Walsh, Roby, Greenwood, Vea, Wellens, Walker(?) out? Anyone else a doubt? IT would be okay, but that's a very very good spine missing.
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| Quote: St pete "Wello has a hip injury and will see specialist this week.'"
Quite bad news. My Gran had a hip replacement and she was never the same after that. A new hip might make him quicker. A mobility scooter like my Gran got definitely would. It wouldn't affect his game much these days either.
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| If we do have both halves, our fb and hooker missing, plus percy it would take a very poor side to lose to us imo. Thats every strike player in our team gone.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "That's modern day rugby league.'"
So how many are you likely to be missing this weekend given such injuries are common in modern day rl?
If you say Bowen, Sarginson, Smith, Williams, McIlorum, Bateman, Tomkins plus a couple of others it would reflect what we could be faced with.
Anyway, enough catastrophising - here's hoping both teams manage to get decent sides out and we get a good game.
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