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| Quote: No1 Saint "Interesting that Gary Wheeler struggled to make it through a game without picking up some kind of knock yet seems a little more robust at Dire so far. Maybe just bad luck'"
Isn't his contract. Pay per Game?
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| Quote: wirefox "Isn't his contract. Pay per Game?'"
No. He's on a moderate salary with appearance fees built in.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "You of course forgot to mention the bit where he was turned inside out by a second row and ended up flailing round on the deck. Wello has been a great player but he's never a halfback in a million years and he's too slow for a modern fullback.'"
So? There were PLENTY of missed tackles made in that game - and by players in their prime (who, by your rationale, have no excuse whatsoever).
The fact that you're more obsessed with one missed tackle by a guy who came on as a sub after missing the full season and yet played a decisive role in the victory speaks volumes.
Wellens might not be up to holding down a first team role any more. But he's worth his weight in gold as a substitute utility player.
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| Quote: Mugwump "So? There were PLENTY of missed tackles made in that game - and by players in their prime (who, by your rationale, have no excuse whatsoever).
The fact that you're more obsessed with one missed tackle by a guy who came on as a sub after missing the full season and yet played a decisive role in the victory speaks volumes.
Wellens might not be up to holding down a first team role any more. But he's worth his weight in gold as a substitute utility player.'"
+1. Some of the posters on here need to get their Mums to buy them a "Paint by numbers set"
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| Quote: Mugwump "So? There were PLENTY of missed tackles made in that game - and by players in their prime (who, by your rationale, have no excuse whatsoever).
The fact that you're more obsessed with one missed tackle by a guy who came on as a sub after missing the full season and yet played a decisive role in the victory speaks volumes.
Wellens might not be up to holding down a first team role any more. But he's worth his weight in gold as a substitute utility player.'"
Hardly obsessed , I just dared to point out that your view seems a little one sided. Wellens is worth his weight in gold when we have injuries. He would not make my first choice 17
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| Quote: Benidorm John "+1. Some of the posters on here need to get their Mums to buy them a "Paint by numbers set"'"
Stop sucking up. It's pathetic as is your 'paint by numbers' comment, if you disagree with something say why and reason / post an alternative view
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Hardly obsessed , I just dared to point out that your view seems a little one sided. Wellens is worth his weight in gold when we have injuries. He would not make my first choice 17'"
For me he is just outside the 17 team, he does however attract over zealous criticism. We are still a relatively young team and we still need some "old heads" in there with experience to give the team some composure.
The natural expectation from some fans might be to bring Hewitt into the side with having no half backs, but that could be pressure damaging as he would be much better playing alongside a Walsh or Burns.
Wilkin has lot of responsibilty at the moment, so another old head will help him out. I,m sure KC sees it this way, its a sticking plaster option until we or if we get the Walsh/Burns partnership everyone wants to see.
Wellens reads the game well and gets into scoring postions, I,ll be chuffed once he scores that 200th try I hope other fans are the same.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Stop sucking up. It's pathetic as is your 'paint by numbers' comment, if you disagree with something say why and reason / post an alternative view'"
Silly Boy
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| Quote: Benidorm John "]
Silly Boy'"
Clearly silly to credit you with intelligence. And who are you calling boy you patronizing prat?
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| Quote: Judder Man "For me he is just outside the 17 team, he does however attract over zealous criticism. We are still a relatively young team and we still need some "old heads" in there with experience to give the team some composure.
The natural expectation from some fans might be to bring Hewitt into the side with having no half backs, but that could be pressure damaging as he would be much better playing alongside a Walsh or Burns.
Wilkin has lot of responsibilty at the moment, so another old head will help him out. I,m sure KC sees it this way, its a sticking plaster option until we or if we get the Walsh/Burns partnership everyone wants to see.
Wellens reads the game well and gets into scoring postions, I,ll be chuffed once he scores that 200th try I hope other fans are the same.'"
I'd love him to hit the 200 mark too btw. I see your point on Hewitt but sometimes being thrown in the deep end can be the making of someone. Using Wellens in the halves for me is just tantamount to saying sod it were just going to play a forwards game and smash teams up the middle, for all his qualities as a captain, bloke and experienced rugby player he is never a halfback and just doesn't offer us the link with the 3/4.
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