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| Quote: magnum_pi "Do people think all this has been in the pipeline for a while? Has brown been used to fill a gap until KC\Longy ready? Seems strange how Brown has left without a job and it's known he's applied for some in Aus. It all seems to have fitted into place quite nicely.'"
KC was being lined up to replace Brown at the end of next year. That was always the plan. Browns in laws have health issues and that's the reason he's gone early.
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| Quote: magnum_pi "Do people think all this has been in the pipeline for a while? Has brown been used to fill a gap until KC\Longy ready? Seems strange how Brown has left without a job and it's known he's applied for some in Aus. It all seems to have fitted into place quite nicely.'"
Don,t think so, Browny's job was to re build the team and stay competitive for silverware, KC as Pete says was still learning his apprenticeship. Daniel Anderson told McManus that Longy would make a great coach one day.
I think its just been accelerated 1 season, to be honest I thought it could have been the other way around Longy ending up as coach with KC as asssistant.
We don,t really know how its going to work out, will it be "2 heads better than one" or "Too Many Cooks"
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| Did Wigun sack Longy or did he walk away?
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| Quote: Rommel "Did Wigun sack Longy or did he walk away?'"
Bit of both I think. I seem to recall getting the impression they were "professionally incompatible".
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Bit of both I think. I seem to recall getting the impression they were "professionally incompatible".'"
Longy won't coach "Thugby".
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Bit of both I think. I seem to recall getting the impression they were "professionally incompatible".'"
It must have been hard for Wane to accept that Long knew far more about the game than he.
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| Our Coach has made a comment in the St Helens Star:
“Me and Longy are good mates and always will be, but I don’t know the dynamics of where he is at with Salford.
“I have probably had a million messages off Longy but I know he is in Australia at the minute coaching with Samoa in the Four Nations,”
So it looks like Longy has been asking is there a job going?????
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| I'm not convinced on Long. If he proves himself at Salford then look at him but they haven't exactly set the league on fire. If anything they've gone backwards since Noble left.
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| Quote: McClennan "I'm not convinced on Long. If he proves himself at Salford then look at him but they haven't exactly set the league on fire. If anything they've gone backwards since Noble left.'"
Nothing to do with 70% new playing staff,a new coach, plus Hock's distruption and the Owner coming out with all sorts in the media upsetting the camp?
Or Long could be a rubbish coach.
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| If you remember the Smith - Holdsworth - Patten attacking triangle they had, it was extremely effective. Phil Vievers gave all the credit for the attacking work to Long. It was a belting set up given Salford's other deficiencies at the time. It also re-launched Matty Smith's career.
That sort of thing is exactly what we need and given the step up in quality from Smith-Holdsworth-Patten to Walsh-Burns-Lomax, together with a better team around them, we could be looking at something very exciting.
Salford today is a bloody minefield. I don't think you can judge any individual on what's going on there, with all the disruption.
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| I thought they did alot better after noble left????
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| That's fair enough but I'm not sure the words of a guy who he worked with carries that more weight. I mean, Matty Smith is pretty much the same player he was at Saints. He hasn't added much to his game with the ball in hand. Certainly, I'd be surprised if Long could teach Walsh anything about how to play half back.
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| Quote: Judder Man "Longy won't coach "Thugby".'"
Which you can understand given the permanent disfigurement that he suffered from the assault by the verminous scum Newton
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| Wigan are extremely structured, thats not Longy's way at all and thats probably were any "professional incompatabilities" come from
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| Quote: McClennan "I'm not convinced on Long. If he proves himself at Salford then look at him but they haven't exactly set the league on fire. If anything they've gone backwards since Noble left.'"
Smith said he enjoyed working with Long when they were both at Salford and Smith did look very good when he was there.
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