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| Quote: SaintsFan "Mark Percival is a genuine young player who has saved our bacon numerous times and who fully deserved the recognition of the coaching staff for the positive impact he has had on the team, including coming to our rescue with goal kicking duties since Walsh was injured. Looks like Dawson is Nathan Brown's current Scott Moore, in which case watch out Adam Swift (although if he gets shipped out to the right team as Sean Lunt did he may end up with a GF winner's ring!).'"
I'd agree, with the Percival bit, not the mad anti Brown mantra
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I'd agree, with the Percival bit, not the mad anti Brown mantra'"
How silly.
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| It is silly to be so Anti Brown considering the youth he has brought through, the good purchases and the position he has moved us to.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "It is silly to be so Anti Brown considering the youth he has brought through, the good purchases and the position he has moved us to.'"
Again, so silly. 'Anti Brown' indeed. You sound like a kid on the playground!
He has brought through no higher number of youth than Simmons did. And Simmons took a real risk - he brought young halves through. Just because you choose to forget that Brown is not the only Saints coach to have brought young players through as a result of injury doesn't mean it didn't happen. Ergo your reason for having a childish dig at me is in tatters.
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| He's brought them through without injuries, which if anything is more difficult.
As for bringing young halves through. Royce had no options in year 1. Leon was crocked and Eastmond was on another planet.
You make your dislike of Brown quite clear, with statements like Brown can finish anywhere as he is pals with Rush.
I on the other hand, have never disliked a Saints coach. Royce is long gone and Brown deserves our support, not snipping from the sidelines about him being best pals and therefore untouchable.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "He's brought them through without injuries, which if anything is more difficult.'"
Eh? We started seeing our young forwards this season when the forwards started to drop with injuries.
Quote: bewareshadows "As for bringing young halves through. Royce had no options in year 1. Leon was crocked and Eastmond was on another planet.'"
He did. He could have played Wilkin, like Brown did last year.
Quote: bewareshadows "You make your dislike of Brown quite clear, with statements like Brown can finish anywhere as he is pals with Rush. '"
I don't know Brown at all. I've only spoken to him briefly once, in Nandos! I didn't want him as our coach and I set out my reasons why. So far, he hasn't overcome those reasons. Clearly Rush thinks very highly of him because Rush himself has said so, in print, and has spoken of his (Rush's) wish to extend Brown's contract, in print. So where you get this silly notion from that it's my 'anti-Brown' stand that's talking I don't know. That daft imagination of yours by the looks of things.
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You assume I'm talking about the forwards.
I've rarely read a chairman so anxious to pay tribute to a departing coach than McManus was in the official statement issued by Saints on Monday.
"He's also a great bloke. I'll be quite candid, that's one of the main reasons I appointed him. He's just a very honest, trustworthy guy. He's emotional about the sport, but when it comes to coaching he's very professional and clinical."
www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2 ... lens-leeds
Just because you like a coach and are gushing about him in the press does not mean it has nothing to do with results.
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You assume I'm talking about the forwards.
I've rarely read a chairman so anxious to pay tribute to a departing coach than McManus was in the official statement issued by Saints on Monday.
"He's also a great bloke. I'll be quite candid, that's one of the main reasons I appointed him. He's just a very honest, trustworthy guy. He's emotional about the sport, but when it comes to coaching he's very professional and clinical."
www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2 ... lens-leeds
Just because you like a coach and are gushing about him in the press does not mean it has nothing to do with results.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "You assume I'm talking about the forwards.
I've rarely read a chairman so anxious to pay tribute to a departing coach than McManus was in the official statement issued by Saints on Monday.
"He's also a great bloke. I'll be quite candid, that's one of the main reasons I appointed him. He's just a very honest, trustworthy guy. He's emotional about the sport, but when it comes to coaching he's very professional and clinical."
I have no idea what you are talking about here? Simmons got the team to a GF and we finished third in the league in 2011. We were a mixed bag at the start of 2012 but we were at the start of 2013 too! I just don't know what your point is.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I have no idea what you are talking about here? Simmons got the team to a GF and we finished third in the league in 2011. We were a mixed bag at the start of 2012 but we were at the start of 2013 too! I just don't know what your point is.'"
that simmons was a bad coach?
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| Quote: Saint Simon "that simmons was a bad coach?'"
So a bad coach gets us to a grand final and third in the league and in an injury hit year too?
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| Quote: SaintsFan "So a bad coach gets us to a grand final and third in the league and in an injury hit year too?
he won nothing
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| Quote: SaintsFan "So a bad coach gets us to a grand final and third in the league and in an injury hit year too?
He didn't get sacked for that, he got sacked for guiding the club on its worst start to a season in 27 years. THAT is what a bad coach does.
Why do you always talk about the GF and not a horrendous run where we looked a complete shambles? Why is one relevant and the other not?
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| Royce did one or two things well, but on the whole, he was a poor tenant.
And to be realistic, did he guide us to a GF, or did James Graham?
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Royce did one or two things well, but on the whole, he was a poor tenant.
And to be realistic, did he guide us to a GF, or did James Graham?'"
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