Surprised none of you have said it was our Cup final yet.

Pretty weird how you have turned in to total dogpoop at the sight of Warrington twice this year.

Still on the whole I have been impressed with the Saints this season and still think you are favourites for the Grand Final, you just turn in these turd efforts sometimes.

Sadly the league is fairly weak these days and I can see why you guys are frustrated even if you have success this year because its only a few years ago that Saints were putting out a team with Cunningham, Scully and co in that would always have a good dingdong with Warrington and do whatever it took to win however scrappily you'd played.

Did anyone see Brown's post match interview on Sky? I've just seen it. 'I can't be too hard on the guys' followed by a wink to the camera. The guy is an ass. I want him gone.

(And no, not simply because of the post match interview; but rather what it represents and how his ineptitude and casual attitude has undermined us all season)

One thing Brown has done for us. He's made us the best at signing decent players and then completely ruining them.

I wouldn,t blame Brown for this one, after 5 mins the players didn,t look interested shocking performance by every single player. Warrington played as though it was them who was going for the league leaders shield.
We might as well toss a coin for the game next week to what the players are going to come up with, it was embarrassing.

Another quite ridiculous performance from a team devoid of a soul. There is no backbone in this side, as soon as anything goes against them they turn to jelly. Wellens as captain is a joke, an utter joke. When the decisions were going against us after we scored, he should have been in his face complaining and demanding better. There were some utterly ridiculous decisions given tonight and he never opened his mouth.

Our pack is the best in the league if you believe Walsh, Brown, McManus and a lot of idiots on here. They're a joke. Individually they look decent players at times, but whenever it matters they get completely demolished. Tonight was unnacceptably bad, Wire lost Grix and Westwood and Waterhouse and Asotasi are appalling. They didn't even have a bench yet they still smashed up to pieces.

McManus has got to be ruthless, he's got to wake up from his slumber and have a complete clear out. We cannot give Wellens another deal, he's a complete joke, a total liability defensively and a terrible player with the ball. Turner is another who has to go. Yet they're holding back on giving Manu a contract? Release McDonnell, Dawson, Wellens, Hohaia and Masoe and we would save a packet and wouldn't notice the difference.

Broken jaw apparently.

Brown is responsible for the game plan (what game plan?), who plays where and how, for training, for attitude and for motivation. Of course he is to blame. As are the players too because they are supposed to be fulltime professionals, although the children at halftime had better ball handling skills and more enthusiasm than Saints did. But Brown doesn't duck this one. The whole job lot of them are responsible.

The people who are NOT responsible are the fans. They have yet again been totally let down by utter turd.

btw have you seen Saints' Facebook page? They've stuck an advert on it for next year's season tickets (with increase in price). Honestly. After that performance! No wonder the team is so dumb. The club is showing the way.

Saints don't have a game plan, they can't even form a scrum to stop the clock.

That means Wellens returning to full back and the club want volunteers to play scrum half.

St Helens will never win big games with Lance Hohaia in the side, awful player.

We were goi okay until McDonnell went off. But as with all to often this year, 1 tiny little thing throws them off kilter and next thing we know were 20 points down.

What was even more frustrating for me was I felt at half time we could really go on and recover and give one last big push, alas it was not to be. Nobody can really hold their heads up after that performance.

If McDonnell has broken his jaw, it just sums up our season. Swift to fullback? (thought his performance was a very dim bright point in the direness that was that performance - in at least he proved himself to be 10x better than Dawson, who is the definition of mediocre) or Wellens to fullback and Hewitt into the side? How much worse could it get? Wellens will get a lot of stick, but he actually created our only 2 try's which is more than can be said for our "real" halfback hohaia who offered precisely nothing, other than weak defence. Manu, Laffranchi and Soliola were very poor, lms, Flanaghan Amor and Masoe were completely anonymous. I still can't figure out who was playing where in the backs, and by the looks of it neither did they. Brown did himself absolutely no favours with his post match interview. He made me even more angry about it than I already am. There was absolutely no game plan, our kicking game was possibly the biggest embarrassment in a night of embarrassments. On the one hand you can say were missing our halfbacks, BUT that's precisely why we needed a clear and concise plan.

The only bright side is I'm off internet for the weekend...

you spoilt GIT !!!!!!!!!!!

in all honestly i think if saints hadn't been at the top of the table....our chairman would have sacked brown by now..

When was the last time he did anything he should. He hasn't got the balls to make a decision like that. He'll just continue making his ridiculous statements suggesting we're on the cusp of glory again. He won't face up to the mistakes he's made or do anything about them.

It's never too late to do the right thing!

It's Mike Rush who loves Brown. Wants him to stay on after next year. McManus trusts Rush. So I very much doubt McManus will sack Brown. Brown is secure and all the players can go home knowing they don't have to perform well to be guaranteed a spot next week.