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Quote: peawapp "What's the betting McDermott didn't see it
I think Brian Mac is usually as honest as they come tbh.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



I have no issue with the sending off as long as all those are a sending off. I recon sending off sufficient.

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: St pete "I thought it was 100% correct to send moon off. I don't think he did it deliberate and I don't think he's that type of player but rules are rules.'"

Agreed, no ban required, Leeds were punished enough by losing a game they looked like comfortably winning until Moon went off.

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Quote: peawapp "What's the betting McDermott didn't see it
He definitely saw it. As soon as he saw the reply he ran down to the bench to change the team before the ref had even pulled out the card!

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Quote: sgtwilko "Agreed, no ban required, Leeds were punished enough by losing a game they looked like comfortably winning until Moon went off.'"


Moon was sent off after 22mins. Amazing if they looked like they would comfortably win it at that point when the score was 2-2!

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Quote: St pete "I think Brian Mac is usually as honest as they come tbh.'"


Never liked Brian when he was in London, he was still in his post military days! but I have respect for him at Leeds, though he has had some real good players to work with.

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Quote: jaybs "Never liked Brian when he was in London, he was still in his post military days! but I have respect for him at Leeds, though he has had some real good players to work with.'"


Why did you not like him because he was post military?

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: Albion "Moon was sent off after 22mins. Amazing if they looked like they would comfortably win it at that point when the score was 2-2!'"

The only place the game was close was on the score board. Leeds were turning the screw and continued to do so with 12 men. Saints worked the numbers and credit to them for that. An unconvincing win with 14 days prep against 12 men with 3 day prep.

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Without reading all the posts and talking about "intent", that tackle is an example of the why shoulder charges are banned.

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I actually thought that Leeds benefitted more. The sending off gave them a real kick up the whereas Percy going off disrupted our already lacking attacking shape.
Brown had a clear plan to continue to grind down the middle until the dam broke. It worked, but it was a close call.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "Without reading all the posts and talking about "intent", that tackle is an example of the why shoulder charges are banned.'"


The most intent was shown by Hohaia when Sutcliffe scored. As Sutcliffe is going for the tryline Hohaia tries taking his head off and actually goes so high that his arm goes over Sutcliffe's head which was lucky for the Leeds player otherwise he could've been following Percival in being helped off. A couple of inches lower and it'd have been 12 v 12.

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Just send them all off , Evan for a bad attempt

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Quote: Offside Monkey "Without reading all the posts and talking about "intent", that tackle is an example of the why shoulder charges are banned.'"


Here's the wording from the Operational Rules – Section - Sentencing Guidelines


Shoulder Charge

B-D Indirect or secondary contact with the head of an attacking player

C-E Direct initial contact with the head of an attacking player

GRADE NORMAL SUSPENSION RANGE

A.... NFA -1
B.....1 – 2
C.....2 -3
D.... 3-5
E.... 4-8
F.... 8+ or period suspension

So I'm guessing Grade C and a two game ban if he submits an egp.

media.therfl.co.uk/docs/On%20Fie ... -Final.pdf
Quote: Offside Monkey "Without reading all the posts and talking about "intent", that tackle is an example of the why shoulder charges are banned.'"


Here's the wording from the Operational Rules – Section - Sentencing Guidelines


Shoulder Charge

B-D Indirect or secondary contact with the head of an attacking player

C-E Direct initial contact with the head of an attacking player

GRADE NORMAL SUSPENSION RANGE

A.... NFA -1
B.....1 – 2
C.....2 -3
D.... 3-5
E.... 4-8
F.... 8+ or period suspension

So I'm guessing Grade C and a two game ban if he submits an egp.

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I don't believe Moon is a dirty player and I don't think he went into the challenge intending to hit Percy high. However he did hit him high and it was correctly sent off. Heck TP got sent off before it was illegal to shoulder charge so there can be no argument.

I think it should be taken into account that players have been playing for years with shoulder charges being legal. So it will take a while for them to get the instinct out of their system. Previous bans would hint that the disciplinary committee don't agree with me.

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Quote: Noel Cleal "I don't believe Moon is a dirty player and I don't think he went into the challenge intending to hit Percy high. However he did hit him high and it was correctly sent off. Heck TP got sent off before it was illegal to shoulder charge so there can be no argument.

I think it should be taken into account that players havebeen playing for years with shoulder charges being
legal. So it will take a while for them to get the instinct out of their system. Previous bans would hint that the disciplinary committee don't agree with me.'"






The shoulder charge in itself is not a sending off offence.
It's the contact to the head that they are concerned about, and in Moon's case there was contact with intent.

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