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| Quote: Saint Simon "you can definitely argue that turner offers more attacking threat than Lance'"
You can, although my worry is that it means that Lance offers no threat and so we have had to look elsewhere.
This I am not too concerned about, but it's all a bit late in the day, when most had seen enough after 2 years.
Still at least if it is true we will have Roby being spelled with Lance which for me is only a good thing.
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| Quote: Albion "www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/saints/news/10967063.Jordan_Turner_likely_to_start_Saints_season_at_six/?ref
Nathan Brown said: "In the pre season we have looked at numbers of options at six.
"Our nine, seven and one are set in stone with Robes, Walshy and Jonny. Six is a spot where we have experimented with numbers in the pre-season but it is probable that we will run with Jordy in that position and use Lance as a utility type player."
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| Quote: saint87 "Interesting tweet from Saints too
Lance to London?
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| Turner won't make a 6 as long as he lives. I was spot on about lance and I'm even more sure that Turner won't work in the halves.
The few times he's gone there he's done a predictable hop skip and step or a run across and drop off. I was pretty confident about this season but we are going to be in the Same boat halfback wise but I've got a feeling Walsh will have a good few halfback partners this year. Turner is not the answer. I'd rather go with Lance, Wilkin or wheeler over Turner.
Why would we move our player of the year out of position?
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| Quote: St pete "Turner won't make a 6 as long as he lives. I was spot on about lance and I'm even more sure that Turner won't work in the halves.
The few times he's gone there he's done a predictable hop skip and step or a run across and drop off. I was pretty confident about this season but we are going to be in the Same boat halfback wise but I've got a feeling Walsh will have a good few halfback partners this year. Turner is not the answer. I'd rather go with Lance, Wilkin or wheeler over Turner.
Why would we move our player of the year out of position?'"
Just to play devils advocate, what qualities did Leon Pryce have that Turner doesn't?
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| Must admit, my comfidence as certainly dropped now.
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| Quote: St pete "Turner won't make a 6 as long as he lives. I was spot on about lance and I'm even more sure that Turner won't work in the halves.
The few times he's gone there he's done a predictable hop skip and step or a run across and drop off. I was pretty confident about this season but we are going to be in the Same boat halfback wise but I've got a feeling Walsh will have a good few halfback partners this year. Turner is not the answer. I'd rather go with Lance, Wilkin or wheeler over Turner.
Why would we move our player of the year out of position?'"
What do you want for a 6?
If you want someone to ease the burden of responsibility of organisation off Walsh the person playing 6 is Wilkin.
If you want someone whose going to run at the line and run off the shoulder of forwards looking for the offload, Turner is as good a shout as any. Will he be better than lance? His handling and distribution has a question mark over it but so does lances no? Personally, turner is more likely to make something out of nothing than lance is - aka is less predictable...
I think the comparisons to Leon are pretty fair, let's be honest Leon's distribution was problematic at times too!
It may just be a way to get turner jones and Percival into the same team? Maybe another centre is coming in on lances money? It seems a sudden change so something's a foot...
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "What do you want for a 6?
If you want someone to ease the burden of responsibility of organisation off Walsh the person playing 6 is Wilkin.
If you want someone whose going to run at the line and run off the shoulder of forwards looking for the offload, Turner is as good a shout as any. Will he be better than lance? His handling and distribution has a question mark over it but so does lances no? Personally, turner is more likely to make something out of nothing than lance is - aka is less predictable...
I think the comparisons to Leon are pretty fair, let's be honest Leon's distribution was problematic at times too!
It may just be a way to get turner jones and Percival into the same team? Maybe another centre is coming in on lances money? It seems a sudden change so something's a foot...'"
I'm wiling to give Turner the benefit of the donut but I'm not fully confident of him at 6
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Just to play devils advocate, what qualities did Leon Pryce have that Turner doesn't?'"
Talent for one.
I am absolutely gobsmacked by this. It takes a lot to shock me but this has me barely able to come up with words to criticise it. But I will give it a go.
Turner as a centre offered nothing. He got talked up on here as having a great season but the only time he has ever beaten a man at Langtree Park he was in a Hull shirt. At least we'll be spared his horrendous defending in the centres, he can be hidden on the wing now.
Lance has clearly been found out which is good, the fact he remains at the club is another example of how weak the management is. Maurice Lindsey would never have stood for this foolery at Wigan. Just persuade him to request a release, its really not that hard.
So a new low even for us. We're happily planning on going into a season with no centres at all, a comedy prancing 6 and you lot are still giddy with excitement about being destined for glory.
Wheeler at centre anyone?
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "What do you want for a 6?
If you want someone to ease the burden of responsibility of organisation off Walsh the person playing 6 is Wilkin.
If you want someone whose going to run at the line and run off the shoulder of forwards looking for the offload, Turner is....'"
....terrible.
Turner at 6 is hilarious. He cannot kick, he cannot pass, he cannot beat a man or attack the line either. He will take the ball, run to the line, do that horrific gay skip and fall over at the feet of the first man like he always does.
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| Lance stated he will be playing at 6. If the tampering has started even before the season has kicked off then the coach will be rightly getting stick again.
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| Quote: Saddened! "....do that horrific gay skip '"
I actually let out a chuckle to myself at that!
Do you not rate Percival as a centre? Your comment that we are going into the season with no centres is a bit harsh.
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| All this 'we need someone to play off Walsh' is utter BS. Brown splits his HBs. Anyway, how on earth is someone who cannot pass to the standard required of a HB play 6?
I am baffled, unless we change our offensive structures. That didn't seem to be the case on Fri. Obviously it's a see how it goes sort of situation.
I'd rather give Wheeler or Charnock a chance than do something like this. But Wheeler looks like he'll play centre instead of Turner I think. Seems odd that he'd change the natural positions of two players.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "I actually let out a chuckle to myself at that!
Yeah I do, he looks a decent prospect. I'm just not sure he's up to first choice in the first team for a whole season yet, unless he's developed a bit physically since last season.
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