This the worst team we've had in my 13 years. The thing is, our young players are coming on nicely, it's the senior players not performing.

cheer up lads. you've got us in a few weeks thats surly a win? as per

For the first time ever I am embarrassed to be a Saints fan but it's the 'fans' comments that bother me the most. I think we need to accept it's not 2006 and we're not in the top few teams in Super League at the moment. People calling for Brown to be sacked is laughable there's not a lot he can do with what he has, we should give him his contract length before judging him. We need to get behind the team and put trust in Brown to recruit well for the coming seasons.

The team selections are Brown's fault tho. Picking Greenwood (who I have been impressed with) at centre was madness, Widnes ran at him and scored 3 tries there. Not his fault, he isn't a centre.

I think as fans we need to get behind the young lads. Imagine what they must think, we are not doing their confidence any good whatsoever.

All i hear is People constantly slagging off the likes of ashe, gaskell when he was here, lomax when at 7, wilkin and lance etc etc. how do we know that Walsh (should we sign him) is even gonna make a difference? He still won't have the runners to pass to.

Yes it's hard and frustrating but these young lads need confidence and a lot of that comes from us. At one point tonight there was uproar cos we ran it on the last rather than kick but we actually ended up scoring from that play (lucky or not).

This bad form is down to injuries, lack of cohesion created by injuries and lack of confidence.

We missed sia big time last night as well as the other injuries but I thought Thompson looked really good and aggressive. Him and Walmsley are gonna be solid forwards for us in the future.

This period will be good for our future as long as we get behind them and get the team through it.

The song "you only sing when your winning" would be a pretty spot on song for our fans right now.

I'm not embarrassed about losing to the "lower" teams London or Widnes, I'm very embarrassed at the performances by the team. We are a total mess!

The injuries excuse doesn't wash with me against certain teams. Fair enough if we lost to Wigan, wolves, Leeds etc but we are getting best by the so called mediocre teams.

Last night for example, from the players out injured, only lomax, roby, sia and wilkin would have started in the starting 13 that would have any impact on our performace. Widnes also had key players out especially Hanbury and they had 3/4 returning from injuries.

The mess on the pitch is embarrassing. The missed tackles, the poor passing. We seem to lack basic skills, we can't pick bad passes off the floor for example, a bad pass equals a knock on.

If the rumours about Wigan wanting lomax are true then if I was lomax, I'd seriously be thinking about it. We are a team on the slide and the club lacks ambition.

Lomax to replace Tomkins when he leaves-you can see it happening

Rugby League is not just a game. It is much more important than that.

And I wouldn't blame him one little bit.

I suspect if that happened that would signal a mass non renewal of season tickets and some significant protests. The club would lose far more than it gained by a sale.

Feeling sorry for our Pie Munching friends over the lump though we could offer them a bargin with Wellens

He is tarnishing his legacy , certainly for newer fans who've only ever seen the crap version of Wello.

He was anonymous last night. Literally just a warm body on the pitch, except for that break he made in the second half.

I'd be delighted if that were true, but can't see it happening; Jonny's been a Saints fan since he was a little lad playing for OSJ. I think he'll stay loyal to you.

Also 11,400 against Widnes, I seam to recall thinking that last year we'd be hoping to get between 14,000 to a sell out.

I maybe wrong but 11,400 does not seam to different to playing Widnes at KR. Don't get me wrong we needed the move, but it does seam people are now voting with their feet.