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Quote: sammy_105 "I've felt strongly for a while now about this half back situation but was a little scared to post for fear of being shot down, but here goes....Don't get me wrong , i luv em both but Wello n Wilkin have got 20+ yrs between them at the club and IMO have had enough training sessions to know what 6 n 7 do in a game, but they seem like they haven't got a clue.!!! Haven't we fired Gaskell off for bein sh*t at 6.? ( or has he been pushed).? Wilkin hasn't been any better in my opinion and before people start to say "He isn't a half back or a 7" he put his hand up to play there. His ball distribution in the last 4/5 games has been appauling and his kicking game not much better. If you play RL you should be able to at least pass a ball, it's a "Core skill" done at junior level. If a kicking game was designed to find a Fullback or a Winger then yea, he's agreat kicker...We seriously need some half backs.'"


In wilkin's defence he does give a really good interview.

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Wellens' defence is shabby too! He was at fault for Paterson's try today and his head always seems to be in the wrong place when he's tackling.

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Quote: BackrowSaint "You and Pete got something going on?'"

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Txting the mrs and posting in here fail !

But if he can get wellens out of the team and get us a halfback I'd love him lol!

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Quote: sammy_105 "I've felt strongly for a while now about this half back situation but was a little scared to post for fear of being shot down, but here goes....Don't get me wrong , i luv em both but Wello n Wilkin have got 20+ yrs between them at the club and IMO have had enough training sessions to know what 6 n 7 do in a game, but they seem like they haven't got a clue.!!! Haven't we fired Gaskell off for bein sh*t at 6.? ( or has he been pushed).? Wilkin hasn't been any better in my opinion and before people start to say "He isn't a half back or a 7" he put his hand up to play there. His ball distribution in the last 4/5 games has been appauling and his kicking game not much better. If you play RL you should be able to at least pass a ball, it's a "Core skill" done at junior level. If a kicking game was designed to find a Fullback or a Winger then yea, he's agreat kicker...We seriously need some half backs.'"


Bloody sense at last, everyone is on the Wilkin bandwagon because he's not a halfback but playing there. What's the difference with Wello? Neither of them should be anywhere near the hub. My view is that both should be on their way out, Wilkin is a penalty machine and Wello is now Wello. We may as well at least try some youth even as an experiment this season as at least we'll be a little wiser after the event.

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Quote: Legman "Bloody sense at last, everyone is on the Wilkin bandwagon because he's not a halfback but playing there. What's the difference with Wello? Neither of them should be anywhere near the hub. My view is that both should be on their way out, Wilkin is a penalty machine and Wello is now Wello. We may as well at least try some youth even as an experiment this season as at least we'll be a little wiser after the event.'"

Wilkin at least is doing an average job at 7, wello though is the worst 6 I've ever witnessed!

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Heard a rumour last weekend that you're after Dobson, wether it's for next season or for the remainder of this one I don't know. Of course it could be a load of bollox but heard it off 3 separate people.

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Quote: Happy Red "Heard a rumour last weekend that you're after Dobson, wether it's for next season or for the remainder of this one I don't know. Of course it could be a load of bollox but heard it off 3 separate people.'"


There is wanting and getting. Dobson is on a hefty contract at Hull KR and a long term deal at that. Wouldn't be cheap buying him out of his current deal.

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Today should have made absolutely clear how poor a team we are because we have no HBs. We struggled to break down a Hull KR defence and they must have one of the worst in the league. No disrespect intended with that, I think Rovers are very weak in that area.

We had countless chances and never really looked like creating a try. Our tries came from breaks and we looked pretty dangerous from deep, but when any sort of pressure was on us to create something when we had them on their own line, we fell flat footed and just didn't have any craft in getting over the line.

We need to do something about this NOW. If we don't, then it's going to be a nothing season. I reckon that it'll be Wilkin and Wellens/Hohaia until next season and that's really depressing.

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Call me a bad fan but if Eamonn (or whoever is in charge of recruitment) do not find us a TOP halfback by next season. Then i will not be renewing my season ticket, you cannot fault the players. Theyre like a top class horse running without a leg. This is the Senior guys fault.

A club like saints who consider themselves one of the biggest clubs in the world to have a half back pairing of Wellens and Wilkin is noting but embarrasing. This is not because of injuries, it's because we have let recruitment go tits up over the last few years and lots of short sighted views.

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Wellens is an embarrassment to the player he once was. I said about three or four years ago on here that he will retire a joke figure and not the legend he WAS.

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Quote: Saint Simon "Wilkin at least is doing an average job at 7, wello though is the worst 6 I've ever witnessed!'"


He makes Daryl Powell look good and that takes some doing !

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Quote: Saddened! "Wellens is an embarrassment to the player he once was. I said about three or four years ago on here that he will retire a joke figure and not the legend he WAS.'"


And it looks sadly as if you will be proved correct. My personal view would be he should not be playing at all but if we have to play him sticking him anywhere in the backs or halfback is just cruel as it's making him look a fool

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Quote: Saddened! "Wellens is an embarrassment to the player he once was. I said about three or four years ago on here that he will retire a joke figure and not the legend he WAS.'"

You're often prone to exaggerate the negetives, but you may well end up bob-on with this.

Why would we persist with this!?

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Quote: One eyed monster " Then i will not be renewing my season ticket.'"


You wont be the only one. This is the worst Saints halfback 'pairing' I've ever seen by a long way and I'm sure you wont be the only person wondering why you should renew your ticket to watch a second row and a tired old fullback huffing and puffing in the middle of the park desperately trying to add some creativity.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "You're often prone to exaggerate the negetives, but you may well end up bob-on with this.

Why would we persist with this!?'"


I cant believe Brown cant see what the rest of us can . It's bl00dy obvious to anyone with eyes who knows anything about Rugby that Wello is just terrible at 6

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