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The depressing reality is although the England squad looks pathetic it's hard to argue against, we only have Roby. When you go through our English players they really are not good enough. Makinson for me is the only one who could push for a place.
Wellens - past it even at Super League level
Shenton - been poor this season
Jones - progressing well but never an international yet
Wheeler - always injured
Lomax - isn't good enough at 7 for international yet
LMS - too inconsistant
Clough - average
Flanagan - good tackler but never international
Wilkin - couldn't we have used him as as a transfer fee for Taylor from Hull KR?
Dixon - average
Gaskell - average
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| Quote: Sunshine state "I thought Josh Jones and Lomax would have made it, but your pack next year dosn't sound very English apart from Roby>>> Perry Laffranci Manu Soliola+ Puletua not many of them from Thatto Heath but looking fearsome!!'"
Lomax had a good start to the season, average middle of the season and a very poor end of season and IMO hasn't been good enough to be selected.
Josh jones is nowhere near ready and shouldn't be selected.
I think LMS was unlucky not to get a call, he's had a very good season. |
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| Quote: Saddened! "Has this ever happened before? For as long as I can remember we've always had a few auto-picks in there.
Is this a sign of the times? Warrington and Leeds have 12 between them I think. It's a bit of a damning indictment of our much heralded (By Eamon and the blind optimistics on here) squad isn't it that not one of them is good enough to play for England?
Full squad: Ablett, Atkins, Briscoe, S.Burgess, Burrow, Charnley, Chase, Cudjoe, Ellis, Graham, Hall, Hardaker, Hill, Hock, JJB, Mcllorum,Morley, Mossop, Myler, O'Loughlin, Sinfield, Tomkins, Watkins, Westwood
Morley's inclusion is a joke, Hill deserves his spot The rest are pretty hard to argue with I guess. I suppose this squad also gives Rogues chance to say McIllorum was chosen ahead of Roby ![]()
Are you surprised? Mac doesn't know what he is doing!
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| Quote: Sweaty Betty's "Are you surprised? Mac doesn't know what he is doing!'"
I think Mac is taking them high altitude training next month, do you think someone has forgotten to tell him the altitude effect only last a few weeks and not until the world cup next year. |
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| Quote: Ninja saint "Didn't someone on here say saints squad is oozing with quality ?'"
Yes it is. But most of that quality is either too foreign, too young, too badly coached or too old to make an England squad. Do try to keep up... |
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "Yes it is. But most of that quality is either too foreign, too young, too badly coached or too old to make an England squad. Do try to keep up...'"
So you expect our overseas players to be selected? |
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| Quote: Ninja saint "So you expect our overseas players to be selected?'"
If they have been resident for 5 years or more then why not. Criteria is good enough for Rangi Chase!
Sorry, I Forgot MacBanana hasn't got a clue what he's doing!!!! |
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Good news overall. It's a nothing tournament and if it had any meaning I'm sure some of our players would have been selected. Of more benefit to Saints is the fact that they will get a good rest and the new coach will have a full pre-season with all his players available.
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| Quote: St_Cunningham_no9 "If they have been resident for 5 years or more then why not. Criteria is good enough for Rangi Chase!
Sorry, I Forgot MacBanana hasn't got a clue what he's doing!!!!'"
The fact is, our squad doesn't ooze quality and they ain't good enough for England selection. |
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| Quote: SFW "Good news overall. It's a nothing tournament and if it had any meaning I'm sure some of our players would have been selected. Of more benefit to Saints is the fact that they will get a good rest and the new coach will have a full pre-season with all his players available.'"
I think that's why I'm dissapointed LMS isn' in there, he MAY turn out to be an England regualr as he gets older, wouldn't he be worth a run in front of Morley?
Also, I'd be dissapointed if i were Big Eorl. He practically played Hull by himself the othr week. |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I think that's why I'm dissapointed LMS isn' in there, he MAY turn out to be an England regualr as he gets older, wouldn't he be worth a run in front of Morley?
Also, I'd be dissapointed if i were Big Eorl. He practically played Hull by himself the othr week.'"
Crabtree is injured. Elbow and shoulder ops. |
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| Quote: Ninja saint "So you expect our overseas players to be selected?'"
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| Quote: Ninja saint "The fact is, our squad doesn't ooze quality and they ain't good enough for England selection.'"
I don't think you grasped I was being slightly pedantic with my post. We have enough quality in the squad, just some are not ready to make the step up to International RL yet or are nursing injuries. |
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Even more reason to not care.
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "........... ![]()
Ok mr know it all
You say our squad ozzes quality but not one player is selected for international duty which is strange for a squad that oozes quality.
Which players do you refer to and why ain't they in the England squad ?
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