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We'll be bowing out of the play offs in week 2 unless our form picks up soon.

We were as poor tonight in beating Salford 38-6 as we were in getting thumped at Wire last week. It says a lot about the state of superleague as a whole tbh.

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I can perfectly understand where the OP is coming from and without getting into a broader discussion about the
play off system versus FPTP system etc.

However..... whether we agree with the present play off system or not (which I personally don't) the idea of wanting Wigan to win the SL regardless of how they have done it makes me feels eusa_sick.gif

I would rather support an Al Qaeda 13 than the Pie Eaters.

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I would rather support an Al Qaeda 13 than the Pie Eaters.'"


I would pay good money to see that game!

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The game will end up being run by a few top clubs, how about an eight team Super? League which will have even less interest to major sponsors than now! and in the end may end up back semi pro, not sure if Sky would have interest in such a minor interest game any longer. I have been in rugby league since I was a kid but you know it would not really concern me if this is what happened as thousands of others I have very little interest any longer, so many think it is "The Greatest Game" still, which is a Joke.

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Quote: jaybs "The game will end up being run by a few top clubs, how about an eight team Super? League which will have even less interest to major sponsors than now! and in the end may end up back semi pro, not sure if Sky would have interest in such a minor interest game any longer. I have been in rugby league since I was a kid but you know it would not really concern me if this is what happened as thousands of others I have very little interest any longer, so many think it is "The Greatest Game" still, which is a Joke.'"


Do you mean the Super League myth? Only four different winners in the past 16 years, and only five different finalists.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "These opening few words should be enough to prevent you ever saying what you have done in the title of this thread.

People like you really do make me want to vomit. All this politically correct, "for the good of the game" nonsense really does wind me up.

It is very very simple, a Saints fan of 27 years SHOULD hate Wigan and never want them to win a trophy, regardless of the moral implications that you refer to.

So what happens if it is a Saints v Wigan Grand Final? Would you be hoping Wigan win it, for the good of the game?? Of it is was Wigan v Catalans for example, you would still rather Wigan win it?? And to think you actually class yourself as a Saints fan!! Disgusting.'"


Didn’t I take your part last week when one of Wolfies whelps had an unjustified rant about a misunderstanding over one of your posts? Sad now to read words like hate, and vomit in comments about the place of my birth. I will give no vicious retort now but ask only, to whom would your venom best be spat, me who stood up for you against injustice, or that wiry whelp?

icon_cry.gif icon_confused.gif: "Gone and never called me Mother"

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Quote: pies-r-us "Didn’t I take your part last week when one of Wolfies whelps had an unjustified rant about a misunderstanding over one of your posts? Sad now to read words like hate, and vomit in comments about the place of my birth. I will give no vicious retort now but ask only, to whom would your venom best be spat, me who stood up for you against injustice, or that wiry whelp?


Bloody hell Shakespeare, calm down.
I dont really see the relevance of last week to be honest. Regardless of the fact you defended my post on the Warrington board, I still hate Wigan. As should all Saints fans. And if, as a Wigan fan, you told me that you didn't hate Saints, then I would be more than a tad confused.
Surely you don't expect me to forget 27 years of hate towards Wigan, all because you defended something I said last week? Don't take it so personally! icon_biggrin.gif

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If Saints dont win it I couldnt careless who does apart from Wigan.............

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Do you mean the Super League myth? Only four different winners in the past 16 years, and only five different finalists.'"


As opposed to the 6 different winners in the previous 16 years before SL, or the 2 teams that won the league in the last 10 years before SL?

And for all the people moaning about the play-offs only about 23 league seasons have been decided by a first past the post format.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Do you mean the Super League myth? Only four different winners in the past 16 years, and only five different finalists.'"


You neglect the number of different winners of the Challenge Cup since Super League was created i.e. only two teams have managed to retain the cup in sixteen years, us and Wire.

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Quote: McClennan "You neglect the number of different winners of the Challenge Cup since Super League was created i.e. only two teams have managed to retain the cup in sixteen years, us and Wire.'"



There have been less different teams contest the Challenge Cup Final since Super League than the sixteen years prior to it starting, and only one less winner.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "There have been less different teams contest the Challenge Cup Final since Super League than the sixteen years prior to it starting, and only one less winner.'"


Yeah but that's been because we've been ace over that time icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: McClennan "Yeah but that's been because we've been ace over that time
As I said the "myth" of Super League.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Bloody hell Shakespeare, calm down.
I dont really see the relevance of last week to be honest. Regardless of the fact you defended my post on the Warrington board, I still hate Wigan. As should all Saints fans. And if, as a Wigan fan, you told me that you didn't hate Saints, then I would be more than a tad confused.
Surely you don't expect me to forget 27 years of hate towards Wigan, all because you defended something I said last week? Don't take it so personally! eusa_boohoo.gif h025.gif

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Quote: pies-r-us "How did you know my name was Shakespeare? It’s not by the way, it’s Gladys Orwell. I think you would find most Pies don’t hate saints fans, because we, as opposed to you lot in vomit land, know our place in the ranks of the Rugby League worlds aristocracy, and it's at the top, and that’s what you lot will never come to terms with. I don’t know if we being champions will be good for SL, I’m sure no one else away from Wigan would like it, but we’re used to that. It would just add a touch of green to your vomit. (No offence meant) 3-0 lol!



I think you'll find I haven't mentioned anything about the fans hating each other. I said I hate Wigan, and I'd expect Wigan fans to hate Saints. I have many friends and family members, even my girlfriend, who are all Wigan fans. I don't hate those people, I just hate what they stand for in terms of the team they "support."

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