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| Quote: Dux "I'm fine with this. He's only 23 and he hasn't been playing in the centres for all that long, but he has raw athleticism, which is something that our backline has been sorely missing. He's a project, and while he won't be on peanuts I'm sure he'll be a significant mark down from Shenton in price.'"
Hasn't been playing centre all that long? He's played there for 3 years with us, and at Salford before then.
The guy who said he'll be similar to Shenton but on less money has probably got it bang on.
His try scoring record is pretty good for us though.
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| If he's no good, he won't get on the team.
We are rumoured to be resigning Meli.
Gardner will be on the last year of his contract so usually ups his form.
Jones is looking good.
Makinson is looking good.
We rumoured to be resigning Wellens.
We have Swift and Wheeler in reserve.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Jury is out on this one. In an attacking sense, we won't be able to moan as much about lacking pace with Makinson and Turner in there. His defense worries me, but he's a typical Brown signing and hopefully he can improve him in the way he has with the Huddersfield outside backs.
Do we think that's it now for recruitment?'"
Wow, you've changed your tune from the VT where you described him as one of England's best centres.
Quote: Saddened! "I'm fine with this. He's only 23 and he hasn't been playing in the centres for all that long, '"
He's played there for atleast 4 years.
He's had the occasional game for us at stand-off (due to injuries) but was never that good there. He's said that he'd like to play at Loose Forward but has never managed to earn himself a place there.
He's a strong guy and can drive through a tackle, he's pretty fast in a sprint, but he's severely let down by his defense and defensive positioning. He regularly shoots out of the line but fails to make a good tackle, and he often leaves his winger exposed by coming in too much.
He'll be good for you near the oppositions tryline but he needs to make massive improvements elsewhere in his game.
You'll get some good moments from him, but you'll also get some bad ones too.
At the start of the season, and prior to the injury, he was being kept out of the side by Tony Martin.
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| I'm happy with Turner. He is a natural athlete and he's coming to a better club, under NB I think he will improve massively. He has the ability to break tackles and go length of the field surely this is what everyone on here has been asking for?
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| Quote: Panda92 "Wow, you've changed your tune from the VT where you described him as one of England's best centres. '"
Not when you look at the post in context. We were discussing an NRL club being in talks with an English centre. Out of the English centres in Super League, I'll think you'll find it hard to suggest Turner isn't one of the best. It's not a very long list.
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| good on his day, just doesnt have enough of them,
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| Really surprised at Saints for this. Very average player, barely makes it into our injury ridden side. Showed some moments of classy play, defensively pretty awful all of the time.
Manu - good piece of business by Saints
Turner - good piece of business by Hull imo.
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| cant we have manu back...................please
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| Quote: Bal "Really surprised at Saints for this. Very average player, barely makes it into our injury ridden side. Showed some moments of classy play, defensively pretty awful all of the time.
Manu - good piece of business by Saints
Turner - good piece of business by Hull imo.'"
Got to agree with that. Hull wanted to keep Turner but only at a bargain bin price. Manu we wanted to keep full stop.
With Arundel coming in and Crooks looking like a future star I don't think Turner is a great loss. With Manu the only consolation is that we got Ellis.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Out of the English centres in Super League, I'll think you'll find it hard to suggest Turner isn't one of the best. It's not a very long list.'"
I actually found it pretty easy.
Atkins, Watkins, Goulding, Bridge, Yeaman, Welham, Shenton, Cudjoe, Hardaker, Ratchford (not specialist position), Ablett (not specialist position) are all English and play centre to a higher standard than Turner does.
You then have young players like J. Jones, Crooks, and Sarginson who have looked good this season but haven't been around long enough to be definitively classed above him.
Arundel is a centre in the Knights squad but he's been out for so long with injury that I would have to see how he returns before listing him.
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| Quote: Panda92 "I actually found it pretty easy.
Atkins, Watkins, Goulding, Bridge, Yeaman, Welham, Shenton, Cudjoe, Hardaker, Ratchford (not specialist position), Ablett (not specialist position) are all English and play centre to a higher standard than Turner does.
You then have young players like J. Jones, Crooks, and Sarginson who have looked good this season but haven't been around long enough to be definitively classed above him.
Arundel is a centre in the Knights squad but he's been out for so long with injury that I would have to see how he returns before listing him.'"
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But anyway, how many of those England centres are off contract? Roughly none?
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| Quote: Saddened! "Goulding
Goulding is better than Turner, though. I know you're a Saints fan so it's difficult to praise anything about Wigan, but you have to accept that.
You never mentioned that they had to be off-contract in the list. You only said that it would be difficult to list many English centres that are better than Turner. You seem to be clutching at straws a bit now.
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| Quote: Panda92 "You never mentioned that they had to be off-contract in the list. You only said that it would be difficult to list many English centres that are better than Turner. You seem to be clutching at straws a bit now.'" To be fair, in his post regarding and Aus club signing a british centre
Quote: Panda92 "Young? - Tick
Off contract? - Tick
Centre? - Tick
One of England's best? - I would argue again, tick.
There really aren't many decent English outside backs off contract at the moment.'"
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "To be fair, in his post regarding and Aus club signing a british centre
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My list was based upon this post, where he mentioned a list but didn't mention that it had to be OOC players.
Quote: Offside Monkey "Not when you look at the post in context. We were discussing an NRL club being in talks with an English centre. Out of the English centres in Super League, I'll think you'll find it hard to suggest Turner isn't one of the best. It's not a very long list.'"
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| Quote: Panda92 "My list was based upon this post, where he mentioned a list but didn't mention that it had to be OOC players.
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Are you a politician in your free time or a journalist?
You know what I meant, just as Offside Monkey pointed out. It's a mute point anyway as our opinions of him are very similar.
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