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Quote: Dux "I think we need to remember that the stricter overseas player regulations were always going to result in a gradual decline in standards for at least the short to medium term. Now that players with exemptions are starting to retire in numbers we're seeing that decline happen. It's not ideal, but I think it's a hit worth taking if we want to improve the way we produce young players across the competition.

Saddened! is right about the number of teams, though. Just before we went up to 14 teams I reckon we had the most competitive SL there has ever been. Again, this decision was made with a bigger picture in mind (basically to allow the introduction of Crusaders IIRC), but one which ultimately proved to be misguided. I reckon a move back down to 12 teams would make a significant difference to the standard of the league. If you pooled together the playing squads of the bottom four clubs I think you could put together two presentable sides.'"


Pretty much agree with all that.

Let's also not forget that SL moved away from the exciting spectacle it was becoming, with strictly-enforced 10m defensive lines and defending players having to get off the tackled player quickly. Yes, there were some cricket-score results (we still do...), but players were coming to terms with the changes. What it did do is make defences work hard and have to be top drawer, whilst skillful, entertaining players had space to work in. After SL abandoned this and allowed slowing of PTB's and shorter defence lines, defences had it too easy and it became more the 'big bloke' slugathon we have today.

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Is Eddie Hemmings not claiming that 2012 is the best SL ever as he does year after year ?

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A slower play the ball has certainly contributed to a lower standard, its given time for defences to get set, setting the majority of the game with forward drives and a kick at the end of the set.
We see more and more trys scored now from speculitive kicks at the expense of half back passing plays. Also the ascendency over the years of flat attacks means we lose passing space again with the half backs.
We get more games as slugathons with momentum provided by penalties courtesy of the inconsistent ref standard.
A top 8 play off has effect on standard, compare it to an examinatiom mark. Top 8 would give you a qualification mark of 40% a top 3 would be closer to 80%. Too much tinkering with the game from the RFL has brought us into the fashion of "correctness" where we don,t have failure in our game just different levels of success.

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This is the first time since I've been watching that I've been utterly bored of Super League. I'm kind of wanting it to end already in the hope that next year could be better!

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Quote: Judder Man "A slower play the ball has certainly contributed to a lower standard, its given time for defences to get set, setting the majority of the game with forward drives and a kick at the end of the set.'"


Surely, though, this forces the development of more creative halves over the longer term? Quick PTBs might lead to high scoring games, but it values the speed and awareness of a hooker over any other position. There's no need to use guile, clever plays etc to break a team down, just the ability to toss the ball quickly through your legs when you're half tackled.

As soon as a ref allows slower ptbs ( classically, at international level) or when teams slow it down by employing tactics intended just for that (see Wigan and Hudds of a season or two ago) a team is immediately rendered impotent.

IMO, it's a key reason why Aussie halves are infinitely better, there's no obsession there with having the tackled cleared within a nanosecond. Get the lines set, then let's see what you've got.m

I'd say it's actually a way to increase standards, though granted there will be a transitional period before the rewards come.

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Quote: Cragganmore Kid "Surely, though, this forces the development of more creative halves over the longer term? Quick PTBs might lead to high scoring games, but it values the speed and awareness of a hooker over any other position. There's no need to use guile, clever plays etc to break a team down, just the ability to toss the ball quickly through your legs when you're half tackled.

As soon as a ref allows slower ptbs ( classically, at international level) or when teams slow it down by employing tactics intended just for that (see Wigan and Hudds of a season or two ago) a team is immediately rendered impotent.

IMO, it's a key reason why Aussie halves are infinitely better, there's no obsession there with having the tackled cleared within a nanosecond. Get the lines set, then let's see what you've got.m

I'd say it's actually a way to increase standards, though granted there will be a transitional period before the rewards come.'"


I,m not sure if we are going to develop half backs due to the manner we play in superleague with forward drives and a kick. Perhaps with more skilful forwards with good offloads to get half backs into potential gaps.
Can,t think of any English half backs that can unlock a tight defence, most of these in superleague are from the southern hemisphere. Thats proably why we have Widdop and Chase in our international side.
We will never catch up to NRL because our standard will be forever a transitional one. Its a pity we haven,t got 2 off Sam Tomkins operating at 6 and 7.

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Quote: Dux "I think we need to remember that the stricter overseas player regulations were always going to result in a gradual decline in standards for at least the short to medium term. Now that players with exemptions are starting to retire in numbers we're seeing that decline happen. It's not ideal, but I think it's a hit worth taking if we want to improve the way we produce young players across the competition.

Saddened! is right about the number of teams, though. Just before we went up to 14 teams I reckon we had the most competitive SL there has ever been. Again, this decision was made with a bigger picture in mind (basically to allow the introduction of Crusaders IIRC), but one which ultimately proved to be misguided. I reckon a move back down to 12 teams would make a significant difference to the standard of the league. If you pooled together the playing squads of the bottom four clubs I think you could put together two presentable sides.'"


Something needs to be done and quickly to address this situation. I think 12 teams would be a good start, but still too many when you consider the lack of both number and quality of imports in the future, not to mention the amount of our own higer end players that are likely to be targetted by the big-money NRL. Personally I would move back to ten as soon as is legally possible.

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The worst scenario is when our best players realise superleague is of such a low standard that they jump at the chance of going to OZ. We then have a situation where nearly all our international players are in the NRL. Our superleague then becomes a bi product for SKY and loses complete credability in the sporting world, whilst the RFL stick there head in the sand and every financial year announce we have made a profit.

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Most of you may know that I'm not one for being critical of SL playing standards but I have to agree about quality when we talk about defences. Attacking wise the competition isn't a disaster but defensively we've gone backwards. Having never been a fan of increasing the number of teams in the competition to fourteen I'm loathe to suggest another issue that contributes more to the reduction in quality than this. There hasn't been enough talent in the UK to sustain so many clubs. Until this is tackled it makes it difficult to raise other issues because the size of the talent pool available is such a major contributor to the overall quality of the competition and as long as that is the case we're not giving ourselves the best opportunity to present the sport at the level that it deserves.

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Quote: Judder Man "I,m not sure if we are going to develop half backs due to the manner we play in superleague with forward drives and a kick. Perhaps with more skilful forwards with good offloads to get half backs into potential gaps.
Can,t think of any English half backs that can unlock a tight defence, most of these in superleague are from the southern hemisphere. Thats proably why we have Widdop and Chase in our international side.
We will never catch up to NRL because our standard will be forever a transitional one. Its a pity we haven,t got 2 off Sam Tomkins operating at 6 and 7.'"


It will take coaches to realise that 5 drives and a kick doesn't win you trophies. The fact you can't think of any English halfbacks who can open up a defence is evidence, IMO, that we've neglected developing that skill because it hasn't been as important as quick ptb and scooting. When the quick ptb is removed from the game, other methods will need to be used and maybe we will see upcoming English halves concentrating on this element of their game rather than seeing yet more broken field support players with no organisational skills.

IMO, a Tomkins at 6 and 7 wouldn't work; he is the best broken field runner in the country but couldn't led a team around the field, orchestrate the line to open gaps etc.

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Quote: Webbo "Pretty much agree with all that.

Let's also not forget that SL moved away from the exciting spectacle it was becoming, with strictly-enforced 10m defensive lines and defending players having to get off the tackled player quickly. Yes, there were some cricket-score results (we still do...), but players were coming to terms with the changes. What it did do is make defences work hard and have to be top drawer, whilst skillful, entertaining players had space to work in. After SL abandoned this and allowed slowing of PTB's and shorter defence lines, defences had it too easy and it became more the 'big bloke' slugathon we have today.'"

The 'scootathon' rugby mentality was the reason we were getting smashed by the Aussies/Kiwis. All we were doing is producing scooting hookers. The hope is that now we start producing hookers and 3/4s that can actual control a game without relying on getting 10 cheap metres by running from dummy half every play.

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Quote: P-J "The 'scootathon' rugby mentality was the reason we were getting smashed by the Aussies/Kiwis. All we were doing is producing scooting hookers. The hope is that now we start producing hookers and 3/4s that can actual control a game without relying on getting 10 cheap metres by running from dummy half every play.'"


The reason we get smashed by them is because they have larger talent pools to select from. It's not rocket surgery.

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Quote: McClennan "The reason we get smashed by them is because they have larger talent pools to select from. It's not rocket surgery.'"


What exactly would that be then?

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Quote: BackrowSaint "What exactly would that be then?'"


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Quote: McClennan "The reason we get smashed by them is because they have larger talent pools to select from. It's not rocket surgery.'"

Oh well then. Let's not even bother turning up next time.

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Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 2nd Aug
NRL
LIVE
NZ Warriors20-30Parramatta
Thu 1st Aug
SL 20 Castleford10-20Leigh
SL 20 Wigan26-14Huddersfield
NRL 22 Wests30-48NQL Cowboys
Sun 28th Jul
NRL 21 St.George10-46Penrith
NRL 21 Dolphins14-21Gold Coast
NRL 21 Canberra32-12Souths
CH 19 Batley16-22Halifax
CH 19 Doncaster37-30Barrow
CH 19 Sheffield78-24Whitehaven
CH 19 Wakefield46-18Featherstone
CH 19 Widnes25-6Bradford
CH 19 York34-4Swinton
L1 17 Newcastle34-44Cornwall
L1 17 Hunslet24-32Workington
L1 17 Keighley36-12Midlands
L1 17 Rochdale10-14Oldham
Sat 27th Jul
SL 19 Salford30-22Castleford
SL 19 Catalans24-16Hull FC
NRL 21 Brisbane16-41Canterbury
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 19 498 245 253 28
Hull KR 19 481 255 226 28
Catalans 19 366 274 92 24
Salford 19 355 366 -11 24
St.Helens 19 455 256 199 22
 
Leeds 19 355 342 13 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 19 268 566 -298 6
LondonB 19 198 725 -527 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
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Sheffield 17 488 283 205 24
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Widnes 17 410 307 103 21
Bradford 17 397 297 100 21
Doncaster 17 318 410 -92 17
 
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Featherstone 17 440 359 81 16
Batley 17 284 366 -82 16
Swinton 17 342 422 -80 12
Halifax 17 318 459 -141 12
Barrow 16 255 458 -203 12
Whitehaven 17 336 556 -220 12
Dewsbury 18 224 560 -336 2
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