Why unless his pack is on top he is useless. His all round game is very limited and he often makes Saints one dimensional. McIlorum has more of an all round game and is a better starting hooker imo. I am not saying that Roby wouldnt make Wigan's 17, he would, it would just be on the bench for his impact.

Wow, thanks for spending the time writing such a balanced post.

All true though.

Yes, of course it is.

Quote: Famous "I genuinly believe that only 1 Saints player, in Roby, would make the Wigan 17. Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting.'" Quote: Famous "apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont 1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close 2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley 3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre 4. carmont 4. shenton not even close 5. richards 5. meli not even close 6. finch 6. lance not even close 7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO! 8. mossop 8. perry not even close 9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established 10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott 11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic. 12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world. 13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close'" I believe the 'let's all lick Wigan forum' is over here - viewforum.php?f=28&tsmp=1336843745

Quote: Famous "I genuinly believe that only 1 Saints player, in Roby, would make the Wigan 17. Even then I would only have Roby on the bench and would have McIlorum starting.'" Quote: Famous "apart from roby not another one of your players would get into are sqaud so you dont 1. tomkins 1. wellens. not even close 2. charnley 2. makinson. close but this season shows charnley 3. goulding 3. wheeler didn't really trouble hughes and he is a 2nd row player Centre 4. carmont 4. shenton not even close 5. richards 5. meli not even close 6. finch 6. lance not even close 7. tommy 7. lomax in a few years maybe but for now NO! 8. mossop 8. perry not even close 9. micky 9. roby micky has got the better of roby on more than one occasion but roby is more established 10. prescott 10. lafranchi it is close but i still stick with prescott 11. hansen 11. afro top hansen by far the most under rated 2nd row in superleague hes fantastic. 12. hock 12. TP wouldn't swap him for any 2nd row in the world. 13. o'loughlin 13. wilkin not even close'" I believe the 'let's all lick Wigan forum' is over here - viewforum.php?f=28&tsmp=1336843745

So like any other back/hooker then yes?



Roby is our best defender, best support player, best meter gainer, etc...

Far from one dimensional I'm afraid.



Now you're being silly



That post has sure made my day

Are you on glue or something ??

You are obviously orgasmic about todays win , but I had to read your post a few times over just to make sure you were been serious , still not sure we are talking about the same James Roby .

That's the most biased thing I've ever seen written by anyone.

That post is worthy of being in my signiture...

Thanks

Is that Wheeler naturally a centre? People give Shenton some hammer but this guy didn't look anything other then a championship plodder. Where's Gaskel and TP? Wellens has definitely had his day, but whilst he's fit, hohaia wont get a chance to play full back and will continue to be average at 6. It definitely isn't doom and gloom for you lot, as you showed when you battered leeds & wire, that you can beat anyone on your day, i think you need to just accept this year has a bit of dip then go stronger next year.

Which says it all about your team. The fact that he hogs the ball and makes so many scoots looks great from an individual stats point of view but does it always help the team, its play and its structure, as a whole. Saints fans complain about their lack of threat outwide but are that blinded that they cant see that much of this lack of threat comes from Roby directing play down the middle when there are glaring overlaps out wide. As a hooker I would expect him to be a good support player so its neither here nor there. Also he may make a lot of tackles, as most hookers do, particularly 80 minutes ones like Roby, but he doesnt hit hard and is rarely dominant like someone like McIlorum is. Horses for courses but in a close, tense match McIlorum offers more for me and is more of a starting hooker.



Of course he is. His organising from dummy half is poor and his passing is poor. I have never seen him play well when his pack is not dominant or for England for that matter. Today Saints were camped on Wigan's line and Roby consistently chose the wrong options from dummy half. If the scoot isn on he hasnt a clue.

I find it amusing that you are all only arguing about whether Roby would start in Wigans team or not. You lot obviously conceed that the rest of your team wouldnt get in the Wigan 17.

Quit the drivel you shame our town with your inane wittering.

Yes; unfortunately he is the only player that get's us to the part of the field where you need to be...you need to make yards, and it just happens that 70% of that comes through James Roby. So in answer to your bewildering questionbut he doesnt hit hard and is rarely dominant like someone like McIlorum is.'"