You never know. It's a shame if his talent gets wasted, but he won't be the first and probably not the last. Sadly talent and the right attitude very often don't come in the same package.

I know. I'm NEVER given enough respect on here in spite of my posts being far better than everyone elses.

He came on as a blood replacement, 2 or 3 weeks back and apparantly, had a really impressive ten minute 'cameo'. The main consensus from their fans was that they thought he had done enough to get more game time and were disappointed when he didn't.

Tomkins had a great debut and scored a brace in the LV Cup, I've seen him play 2 league matches one he started and the other from the bench and he was ineffective spilled the ball and generally didn't do much at all. I've seen Kyle play once he was stood out on the wing looking enthusiastic calling for the ball but a punch of 20+ stone men picked up the ball made a total of 2 inches and repeated until they knocked on. He later fumbles a high ball and that was his total involvement. I honestly think the grass is only greener for them in financial terms but both the recent converts look a million miles away from club rugby they can forget about Twickenham and the Lions for now.

I would take Eastmond at Wigan he was an exceptional talent and would be a great replacement for Tommy.

There will be an ex RL to RU player back in RL at Wigan next season.

Andy Farrell to replace the Monkey????

I think people are being very unfair with Kyle. Would people rather he had taken our money and was then injured all the time. The amount of abuse injured players like Sia, Wheeler and Perry have got for spending time in the stands you would have thought a player that left to sit in someone elses stand would be thanked.

Put yourself in Kyles shoes, your a hot property but you are not sure if you are physically up to playing the sport, what to do? Stay at the club that has developed you, take money off them, play at half pace and avoid getting tackled. Or maybe you should take money off some people with more money than sense. You get paid more and get tackled less without having to hide.

After a year or two (and a game or two) your bank account is full, you can then either retire or come back north knowing that if you don't make it you are not going to end up doing a night shift at Asda.

What did Paul Newlove, a proud Featherstonian, do when he knew he was knackered. Sign on a big money contract for Castleford. Newie was a smarter man than people gave him credit for.

SBW to Batley too, you heard it here first.

Lee Smith

I work with quite a few bath fans and often ask them how he is getting on. The response is either " who?" or "no idea". He is seen as a gobby chav from up north who doesn't fit tge cultured image of a club like bath, and has certainly not shown anything on the pitch to overcome that image. He also appears to be living the life of a premier league footballer, so I doubt the mega bucks he is currently earning are likely to set him up for life.

If you go on the bath webiste it has a lot of reports for both 1st and 2nd team that you can have a look at.

He got a run out for the firsts just after christmas (from the bench) but that was it when I read through it (about 2 weeks ago). It also mentioned he'd got a single try in all appearences for the 2nds from full back.

The guy had everything you wanted in a player except for heart.

Chev Walker?

He has a lot of heart. The problem seems to be who for? You can see the difference between Kyle and Sam Tomkins, Sams all heart for Wigan, Kyle was all heart for himself. That's fair enough too, but you don't last long in team sport like that

Rouges, would it be that lad who went to Sale?

He is earning good money. Good on him. I would have done the same. if it doesnt work out, he will have no end of suitors waiting for him back in rugby league.