Those stats are from the Widnes game where he played about 10 minutes so a very good effort. I don't think the Oldham stats are on there or if they will be due it being Challenge Cup rather than Super League.

I've read a quote from Mike Rush in the Star saying that although Wheeler is in contention for the game on Friday night, Jones has been playing well and so Wheeler may have to 'come through the reserves'.

Wheeler has been outstanding all season. He brings more to the party than Jones IMO, even though Jones has done ok.

Both have contributed more than Shenton this season, or at least showed the ability to. I don't see why Shenton is an automatic in his place if others are out performing him.

I agree but its because he is claased as so called "senior" player.

Also Wheeler should play instead of Jones - he offers more of a threat.
(If only he could stop picking up injuries; I've supported him all the way through but TBH its getting beyond a joke now.)

Outstanding all season? He's been injured for half of it, anonymous in every game he's played in the halves. In truth he's put in two or three promising performances in the centres. He doesn't warrant being thrown back into the side whenever he feels like playing a game or two.

I did think 6 carries wasn't a lot given his minutes against oldham. Never crossed my mind that CC stats wouldnt be on the Superleague site

Played all of two games in the halves hasn't he? And I presume you didnt go to Cas if you think he's been anonymous in every game he's played in the halves!

Not a strong squad then...
Expect us to line up something alond the lines of;
Richard Mathers
Peter Fox
Dean Collis
Paul Sykes
Ben Cockayne
Isaac John
Tim Smith
Kyle Amor
Paul Aiton
Andy Raleigh
Danny Kirmond
Frankie Mariano
Danny Washbrook

Kyle Wood
Vince Mellars
Matt James
Paul Johnson

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19) Andy Ellis

Yes, he has been outstanding all season. Better than Jones. He's now fit, he should be back in the side.

He was looking really good in the centre position earlier in the season. He was one of our best players by a mile during our struggles at the start.

Your definition of outstanding is very generous. He's shown promise in brief segments of games, nothing more.

Outstanding is James Roby and Sia Soliola this season. Everyone else is barely scraping adequate.

Lol oh you keep me smiling. Not the outstanding part but the barely scraping adequate.

Ignoring the fact you were wrong about him in the halves?

Saintsfan, I'd say he was good in the centres, outstanding v cas in halves despite not being 100%. My one worry is his defence this season

How was I wrong? We were utter garbage against Cas, a Cas side which had half it's players missing.

Wheeler is one of those players who got a completely undeserved reputation as a kid, but unlike the likes of Foster he doesn't get involved enough to make the mistakes that make your usual academy player crash and burn, choosing not to be bother playing instead.

He might make it at centre for Saints, but he's nothing more than a kid with promise but also major concerns.

I remeber Wheeler being arguably our best player in the first couple of games I saw, which would have been the home games against Salford and Catalan. Or maybe I'm thinking of the friendly against Widnes.

Anyway, Wheeler's a very good player when on the pitch, but I wouldn't be dropping Jones for him. I think Jones has shown a tad more than you're giving him credit for and, realistically, until we can get wheeler on the pitch consistantly, would we not be better off continuing Jones development by keeping him in against (no disrespect) more modest opposition?