Neither really. I would like to compare his stats with those of Laffranchi for the Wigan game but Laffranchi didn't play. I don't think that LMS is as effective when he is challenged by the opposition props but I don't know how to find stats for individual games and so that is just a hunch. I also think he hangs around not tackling at all a bit too much (especially near the goal line). That isn't a hunch. I've seen him doing it. There isn't a 'not bothered to make a tackle at all' section in the stats though!

There is a big difference in the number of games they have played though. I can't say I even thought of Magennis when I was comparing stats. Is he supposed to be playing at prop or second row?

He's been moved into the sole role of Prop this season, even got a start against Wigan(?). Magennis has played roughly half of Laffranchi so double them and add about 15 tackles and 40 metres and that's Maggenis after 10 games.

It would be interesting to compare our props to that of Wigan, Warrington and hudds.

Someone suggested on here that this is one of the best packs we've had in 20 years where i don't agree at all.

2005/6 with Graham, Baloo, KC, Scully, (a firing) Cayless, etc, etc was a pack to be proud of

To be honest, this current pack is up there with the worst we've ever had in super league. It can hold its own most weeks but it's not a pack I'd like to play behind being a stand off.

The same person, even suggested its a aggressive pack which made me pi$$ myself.

we've zero aggression at the moment, anywhere.

A recent post on C&W went along the lines of "they've no players you hate, infact you'd happily go for a pint with any of them!" and that from our derby rivals!

And they are correct.

I'm not saying aggressive like smashing heads and fighting but aggressive where they want to hurt players in the tackle and if trouble does flair up all in as team like Leeds do.

We don't have the aggression to get fired up for them important spells in games like we used to. The wigan game could have turned on its head if we had one of them ten min spells where we smash them and the whole crowd lifts with it.