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| Nice to see it's not just the Leeds fans who are complete 'fekwits'.
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| He got us to a grand final in an injury ravaged season, yes hes the man for the job
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| A big change round in personnel is required at the end of the season (including the coach).
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| Quote: Saint Simon "He got us to a grand final in an injury ravaged season, yes hes the man for the job'"
weve got to a few grand finals...but never won any of em recentley so its a waste of time going.
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| I suppose the question is right man for what????
It's very early and we are still going well even with this loss, league wise. Many other teams will fall to Catalan.
I don't think Royce will turn Saints into a bottom of the league side.
Will he win stuff????? His rotation would suggest he is end loading the season, but if we can't sure up the defence, it could be too little to late. Not every team can do a Leeds each year? It would only have taken one game, one goal kick for the Leeds season go from being a champion team to a team outside the top 4. Winning is everything, but for Leeds and the Coach it was the definition of that, from a disappointing season to a glorious season in a few games.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "He got us to a grand final in an injury ravaged season, yes hes the man for the job'"
Getting to a grand final is all well and good,Potter did it twice and he had injuries to deal with along the way.Just because we got there doesnt automatically mean he is the man for the job.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "He got us to a grand final in an injury ravaged season, yes hes the man for the job'"
You really think so? I'm not so sure anymore, the last 2 games have been poor defensively and if dont improve by vast amounts we wont have the problem of another grand final to bottle
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| Whether Simmons is the right man is debatable. I wouldn't make any hasty decisions right not as it is far too early. That said, I suspect McManus' patience will not be endless now the stadium is in place.
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47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: Mugwump "Whether Simmons is the right man is debatable. I wouldn't make any hasty decisions right not as it is far too early. That said, I suspect McManus' patience will not be endless now the stadium is in place.'"
No but unless someone awesome turns up mid season, then who???
Bar the return of Anderson or Meninga suddenly being interested, even if our form stays patchy Saints won't drop Royce and in my opinion neither should they. Unless you are going to get a absolute great , (by what ever measure you use) then you need consistency, not a gamble.
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| Very dissapointed with Simmo so far this season, hasn,t got the team prepared right, no gameplans and structure in the team. Not sure if this rotation of players is right, maybe try it when the team is on form but its unsettling the team at the moment.
Seems as though we have a whole backline that are very much hit and miss so far. The only player with any credit so far is Sia Soliola.
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| Sadly it's not just defence.Our attack play is woeful and only for penalties we struggle to get anywhere near the opponents line.
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| Are you seriously wanting Simmo out, On what basis? Do you have to win 100% of your games? This is planet Earth FCS. To be honest with you, I think you may have lost a little ground but you will get it back come June - July in the sunshine. Look at Salford for a comparison they have made massive progress this season butthere are no outright front runners in the first 5 weeks chill and lick your wounds
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47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: Mash Butty "Are you seriously wanting Simmo out, On what basis? Do you have to win 100% of your games? This is planet Earth FCS. To be honest with you, I think you may have lost a little ground but you will get it back come June - July in the sunshine. Look at Salford for a comparison they have made massive progress this season butthere are no outright front runners in the first 5 weeks chill and lick your wounds'"
Its an internet forum, 2hrs after a close match that we seamed to bomb, surely you don't expect anything less.
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| I think it's too early in the season to write off Royce Simmons. But what I do want to know is if he has the guts to drop under performing players because he needs to. He also needs to kick backsides and not be softly softly. We are too soft. We have no props worthy of the name and our halves are confused.
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| Surely the question "Is Simmons the right man?" needs to be considered in the context "who else would come in".
If he's better than what's available then he's the right man, if he's not then he's not.
Who would come in? Noble? Justin Morgan? Jon Sharp? Long?
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