Who said anything about "logical measurement"? I didn't. What I said is the "Champion Spirit" of Leeds isn't necessarily equivalent throughout different frames of reference. I suppose the mentality that drove the 49ers to several titles shares a lot in common with Leeds'. But I can't say swapping the latter into the former would have made no difference to the 49ers. They were playing in a much tougher competition where almost every team had a champion mentality. I just don't see the concept as indivisible. Which means I think one can be ranked above another - if by no other means than gut instinct.

We established this in the first post. Thank you for your contribution.

You are probably quite right there but it doesn't mean that Leeds don't possess it, in whatever variation/permutation. How else do we explain how a team which is full of individuals who are regularly written off continues to find significant success?

The San Francisco 49ers have won 5 Superbowls. However, four of them came before the NFL introduced a salary cap and the last came in 1995, the year after the cap was introduced.

At the time of the 49ers Superbowls the NFL was not the fiercely competitive league it is now. In fact, in the 10 years that preceded the NFLs salary cap the Superbowl was shared between the 49ers, Redskins, Giants and Cowboys. Most other teams were a Salford etc. It was 14 years between Superbowl wins from AFC teams.

Sor I agree with you, he shouldn't compare Leeds to the 49ers. Leeds acheivements in a salary capped sport are far, far greater than the 49ers acheivements were in an uncapped sport.

IF my antie had a penis she would be my uncle but she hasn't so she isn't

I'm sure the 49ers are in awe.

I agree.

To be honest, I think comparing the early 90s Cincinatti Bengals to Salford does Salford a grave dis-service.

Were the NY Jets a team of champions throughout that period? Were they chuff.

Revisonist history alert.

Also, I feel, slightly missing the point of the blog. Maybe that's just me though.