I think you will find that most Super League Clubs have good youth set ups it just takes time for them to develop, even in your "beauty" of a good youth set up you still have to plunder other clubs youth Shelton and Louis MS? LOL!

Also Top Saint states "Absolutely right. In our own, wholly owned, comfortable surroundings." I wonder what the deeds do say? is it completely & fully owned, a lot of Council's and Development Boards when they invest are using tax payers money so they like it to be part owned by & for the community? St Helens may be different.

Plunder? Do you know what the word means? Clearly not! We signed one Cas player and one London player. On Sunday against Wigan we played three foreign players, said Cas and London players plus Wilkin who is from Hull (but who has been with us 10 years next season), and the rest were local lads who had come through our youth system. I think you'll find we lead the way again this season in the number of young and home grown players we have played. That sets us apart in this area.


The stadium is fully owned by the club. The whole site is owned by the developers, Langtree. The council paid for the site to be cleansed and redeveloped (infrastructure) and Tesco paid only for itself. They are the facts of the matter but please don't let that undermine your bitterness.

Seem to recall Saints signing two Samoans after the 2003 RU World cup and wasnt Apollo P bought after a previous RWC competition as well? Possible source for signings again maybe.

Maybe, that sonny bill Williams might be worth a punt as he might make a good rugby league player

Maurie came good once he got fit and Dom Feaunati brought some bite to the backline.

Funny how Dom was the one who signed as a "cert" to be a success and Maurie was bought as a gamble who would progress slowly!

With the clamping down on overseas/non fed players i doubt we can sign anyone from the world cup.

You really are a d1ck. We aquired out of contract British talent and yes we own our stadium unlike alot of clubs including your worthless nomads. Don't know why I or anyone else takes you on, turncoat.

Shows home much you know about rugby league, in a recent game against Leeds we had no players who did not hold a UK Passport on the pitch and we had Five London born players, remember our history is 30 years not 100 years plus.

You are such a polite person LOL! nice to know you.

I respect the number of players the club has brought through the Academy system, but many use it as an excuse when a few matches are lost.

Why should I be bitter? I support any club that is trying to improve themselves, it is just unfortunate it was not done when the Sky money first came into our game.

Tesco paid only for itself? so no money was given at all towards the ground? so do you underestimate the investment from the Council? which come out of taxpayers money, 3% of them a recent figure who support rugby league, even though Council Leader Marie Rimmer tried! to claim much more was down to them, not saying why nothing was ever done much earlier? I still felt some money came through North West Development if I am wrong. It is great to see such as Salford & Warrington with such new grounds. We are now in London looking at land but it has to be the right move, one of the reasons investment is now being put into the Youth game in certain areas, £250,000 from just one sponsor, which is small time money to them this year. I just wish Wigan when they sold Central Park had gone for their own ground, not the beck and call of an owner as we well know currently.

Do you always reply to imaginary posts? Try reading before you type out a reply to what you hoped I'd say rather than what I did say. Turncoat

They tried but they didn't have enough money. IIRC I don't think the council were too keen on 2 new stadiums either. You thinking of supporting them next?

We beat Quins a couple of weeks ago with a team almost entirely made up of our Academy products and only one of those had their debut at that match, which shows just how much we have used our locally grown players this season (and indeed last season). We have won games and lost games with our Academy lads in the team (including our older Academy lads, such as Wello, Jammer and Robes). Some fans don't have patience, I agree, but for the most part I think you will find that Saints fans have bought into what has been a deliberate club policy over the last few years to grow our own.


That was down to the RFL, not the clubs. Clubs want to win trophies, that is natural. A governing body sets the rules by which and the climate within which clubs seek to do that.


Nope. Not a bean. They came into the project in order to enable the site to be developed. It's a big site; a former glassworks. Saints could never afford to develop the whole site.


You don't know what you are talking about. Not a penny of the Council investment came out of taxpayers money. It all came from the Council's capital budget, not its revenue budget. Initially the Council's contribution was £10 million, purely for infrastructure works including the footbridge (yet to arrive). However, just before it was dismantled, the NWDA awarded a grant of £4 million towards the infrastructure works, so reducing the Council's contribution. Without the Council's contribution the site's infrastructure works would not have been completed and neither Saints nor Tesco could have built on there. But that is part of the role of a CouncilI just wish Wigan when they sold Central Park had gone for their own ground, not the beck and call of an owner as we well know currently.'"

Are you trying to be a comedian? because you fail badly, I note from many of your responses to others you are such a happy person Not! LOL