FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > St. Helens > Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday?
107 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11377
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2960.jpg
:2960.jpg



Quote: LovesToSpooge "Is Puletua fit for this one?'"


No official word, but we're hopeful of him lining up.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner29212No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6310_1310045241.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6310.jpg



Quote: FearTheVee "No official word, but we're hopeful of him lining up.'"


If he's not we might as well field the reserves and focus on week 2.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8799No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2015Aug 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
17251_1262354841.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17251.jpg



Did everyone forget the absolute stormer that Wheeler had against Wigan at the start of the season before he got injured in the game? I would gladly give him the "back on the bench" jersey.

Also would people rather TP started or came off the bench in this game? Its a straight choice between him and LMS for me, but i think LMS will get the start.

1.Wellens
2.Makinson
3.Shenton
4.Meli
5.Foster
6.Pryce
7.Lomax
8.Graham
9.Roby
10.LMS
11.Soliola
12.Flannery
13.Wilkin

Subs: TP, Clough, Moore and Wheeler.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11377
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2960.jpg
:2960.jpg



Quote: Saddened! "If he's not we might as well field the reserves and focus on week 2.'"


Yep, would be an unwinnable game like Warrington in the play-offs last year with Smith/Wilkin in the halves.

Why bother turning up? It's not as if this is some sort of sporting contest where teams can have off days or play above themselves or something like that.

RankPostsTeam
International Star712No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2019Dec 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
61326_1313411800.jpg
Friday 28th March, 2014, a day that will live in infamy... [quote="Saddened!":fwnfr3rg]Whatever happens they have all been magnificent. Even Wello.[/quote:fwnfr3rg] [quote="Saddened!":fwnfr3rg]Lance Hohaia can have my babies after that show[/quote:fwnfr3rg] #theworldturnedupsidedown:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_61326.jpg



Not sure why Royce would risk putting Meli on the wing? He has been outstanding at centre for us, and we all know that dealing with kicks is his main weakness which will be targeted by Wigan (and be a big risk of repeat sets/conceding tries) if he was there. Makinson has played very well this season, can finish a try, has pace and most importantly is quite safe under the high ball.

Providing all are fit, my 17 for Sunday would be:

Wellens
Foster
Shenton
Meli
Makinson
Pryce
Lomax
Graham
Roby
LMS
Soliola
Flannery
Wilkin

Moore
Clough
TP
Wheeler/Eastmond

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner29212No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6310_1310045241.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6310.jpg



Quote: FearTheVee "Yep, would be an unwinnable game like Warrington in the play-offs last year with Smith/Wilkin in the halves.

Why bother turning up? It's not as if this is some sort of sporting contest where teams can have off days or play above themselves or something like that.'"


I agree. Sport would be much easier if the winners were crowned at the start of the year rather than the end. It would save so much money.

RankPostsTeam
International Star392No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2014Aug 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60243_1331144319.jpg
[color=#FF0000:iuywj4v2]SUPER LEAGUE HONOURS:[/color:iuywj4v2] [color=#FF0000:iuywj4v2]SUPER LEAGUE WINNERS: 1996, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2006 WORLD CLUB CHALLENGE HONOURS: 2001, 2007 CHALLENGE CUP HONOURS: 1996, 1997, 2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008 BBC SPORTS TEAM OF THE YEAR: 2006 LEAGUE LEADERS' SHIELD: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008[/color:iuywj4v2] "Unless you're willing to have a go, fail miserably, and have another go, success won't happen." "In order to succeed, you must first be willing to fail." "Dreams are extremely important. You can't do it unless you imagine it." [b:iuywj4v2][color=#FF0000:iuywj4v2]St Helens RLFC[/color:iuywj4v2][/b:iuywj4v2]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60243.jpg



With the positivity on this page i think we might as well stop posting and focus on next season then by march the following season.

Where in the play offs and anything can happen......Trust in Mr Simmons.

RankPostsTeam
International Star549No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2013Mar 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



if all fit i would go with 1 wellens 2 makinson 3 shenton 4 meli 5 gardner 6 gaskell 7 lomax 8 graham 9 roby 10 tony p 11 moore 12 sia 13 wilkin 14 pryce 15 clough 16 lms 17 flannery

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



Ok my personal choice taking accout of the resality that Royce will not drop Wellens for eastmond and gaskell will not get a game.

Wellens
Foster
Meli
Shenton
Makinsdon
Lomax
Pryce
Graham
Roby
TP
Sia
Moore
Wilkin

LMS
Clough
Flannery
Wheeler

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



Quote: Offside Monkey "I think wheeler will take the bench spot we assign to a back.
Gaskell is probably most deserving of that spot, but perhaps would lose out to Wheels and Eastmong because they offer a little more electricity. I would think Wheeler will get the nod over Kyle since he's had a bit of a run in the reserves to get his fitness up and isn't leaving at th'end of the season.'"


I think Gaskell is some one you need from the start. Hes not san impact back for mine. He's some one who can peg a side back and apply pressure over the course of a game. I would actually go Lomax Pryce Gaskell to start with either lomax or pryce at fb. But Royce will not drop wellens and will not play gaskell ahead of pryce dispite form and the lack of a kicking game.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12189No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34133_1401485799.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34133.png



Quote: FearTheVee "Wheeler is our most naturally gifted player and would have a place in any 17 I was picking, if fit.

Wellens
Foster
Shenton
Wheeler
Meli
Pryce
Lomax
Graham
Roby
TP
Soliola
Flannery
Wilkin

LMS
Clough
Moore
Eastmond (if we MUST persist with this bloomin "back on the bench" policy)

Having said all that, I see the merit in the alternative of Eastmond out, Wheeler to the bench, Meli back to centre and Makinson on the wing (given the combination Meli/Foster have built up). But I think Wheeler is a better centre than Meli, even taking into account Meli's excellent recent form.

Above all, I hope we play two props on the bench. This means Flannery starting in the back row and TP prop.'"

Id agree with this, Wheeler must play if fit. He was completely bossing wigan on good friday until he was taken out.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40218_1286737075.jpg
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg



Quote: bewareshadows "But Royce will not drop wellens and will not play gaskell ahead of pryce dispite form and the lack of a kicking game.'"

I don't know why some fans insist on harping on about Wello. He is our most experienced player and superb last defence cover. Also he organises the defence. We need him for those reasons alone with so many inexperienced players in the side. It's so obvious that I am amazed some fans do not see it. Defence is vital in big games. Some say it wins them.

As for Pryce, his attitude since deciding on the Dragons has been a disappointment but not really surprising. Whether he can be motivated into playing well on Sunday I don't know but I'm fairly sure that Simmons would have little trouble dropping him if he thought an alternative was a better option. He's benched Eastmond for most of the season.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12189No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34133_1401485799.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34133.png



Quote: SaintsFan "I don't know why some fans insist on harping on about Wello. He is our most experienced player and superb last defence cover. Also he organises the defence. We need him for those reasons alone with so many inexperienced players in the side. It's so obvious that I am amazed some fans do not see it. Defence is vital in big games. Some say it wins them.

As for Pryce, his attitude since deciding on the Dragons has been a disappointment but not really surprising. Whether he can be motivated into playing well on Sunday I don't know but I'm fairly sure that Simmons would have little trouble dropping him if he thought an alternative was a better option. He's benched Eastmond for most of the season.'"

I'm amazed you cant see that wello is past it. He's never been the fastest, but his positioning and tackling more than made up for it. Now however his defence is becoming questionable. 28 missed tackles this year is average for a fullback, but terrible for wello who has no other real facets to his game

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2794No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2016Jun 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13011.gif
[color=red:17c7k77w][size=200:17c7k77w][b:17c7k77w]I READ THE AUP BUT PREFERRED THE MOVIE[/b:17c7k77w][/size:17c7k77w][/color:17c7k77w]:13011.gif



I'd certainly have Wheeler in the 17, possibly 6 at Pryce's expense, but wouldn't even consider moving Meli back to the wing. He's been a revelation at centre, Foster has had some dream service and we've witnessed hardly any of the brainfarts that used to haunt him defensively on the wing.

As much as I know it won't happen, I'd love to see Simmons really mix it up by having a genuine attacking threat at FB, Pryce or Lomax, with Wello as the 'bench back' if we need to go safety first. That's not intended to be a sleight on Wello, more that we'd be introducing a new dimension to our game that Wigan are unlikely to have prepared for. Play off rugby is exactly about those brave, unpredictable and potentially match winning calls.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40218_1286737075.jpg
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg



Quote: Saint Simon "I'm amazed you cant see that wello is past it. He's never been the fastest, but his positioning and tackling more than made up for it. Now however his defence is becoming questionable. 28 missed tackles this year is average for a fullback, but terrible for wello who has no other real facets to his game'"

To begin with you conveniently bypassed my use of the word 'experience' which, given our season, has been vital. Wello hasn't been in the best of form since his injury at Wigan at Easter (prior to which he was fabulous). He isn't 'past it'; he's just suffering from a lack of form and some of that will be down to him playing with injury as have many of our players.

I'm sure we will see him back to form next season. Meanwhile, he has managed to pull off some great try saving moves even when off form and he brings vital experience to the field as a member of a team which is very much lacking in experience.

107 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
107 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


1.18701171875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
Or thane
3485
Recent
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Or thane
10
Recent
Film game
karetaker
4967
Recent
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Father Ted
72
Recent
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hessle Roade
3635
2m
Pre Season - 2025
The games af
40
3m
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2533
4m
England vs Samoa
NickyKiss
88
4m
IMG Score
Bent&Bon
59
4m
2025 Season tickets
Eastern Wild
134
4m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
162
4m
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62909
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
MR FRISK
10
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Or thane
10
TODAY
Sky tv deals
ninearches
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Lord Tony Sm
24
TODAY
New Kit
MorePlaymake
57
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
The games af
40
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
24
TODAY
The Aussies are coming
Bullseye
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa Comfortably In First Test
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
England v Samoa
Captain Hook
33
TODAY
England vs Samoa
NickyKiss
88
TODAY
Trinity back on super league forum
RoyBoy29
4
TODAY
IN 2025 Maika Sivo - Expires 2028
batleyrhino
36
TODAY
Danny McGuire new head coach
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
What happens now
Start@1873
3
TODAY
Liam Kay
Wollo-Wollo-
53
TODAY
Coach announced
The Dors
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
266
England's Women Demolish The W..
250
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
639
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
490
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
633
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1265
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1487
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1758
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1334
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1607
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
1958
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1541
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1634
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1748
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
1966
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M 911 80,15414,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024 3 England M34-16Samoa M
WINT2024 2 ENGLAND W82-0WALES W
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024 2 England M34-18Samoa M
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
Or thane
3485
Recent
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Or thane
10
Recent
Film game
karetaker
4967
Recent
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Father Ted
72
Recent
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Hessle Roade
3635
2m
Pre Season - 2025
The games af
40
3m
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2533
4m
England vs Samoa
NickyKiss
88
4m
IMG Score
Bent&Bon
59
4m
2025 Season tickets
Eastern Wild
134
4m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
162
4m
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
6m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62909
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
5
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
MR FRISK
10
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Or thane
10
TODAY
Sky tv deals
ninearches
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Lord Tony Sm
24
TODAY
New Kit
MorePlaymake
57
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
The games af
40
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
24
TODAY
The Aussies are coming
Bullseye
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa Comfortably In First Test
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
England v Samoa
Captain Hook
33
TODAY
England vs Samoa
NickyKiss
88
TODAY
Trinity back on super league forum
RoyBoy29
4
TODAY
IN 2025 Maika Sivo - Expires 2028
batleyrhino
36
TODAY
Danny McGuire new head coach
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
What happens now
Start@1873
3
TODAY
Liam Kay
Wollo-Wollo-
53
TODAY
Coach announced
The Dors
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
266
England's Women Demolish The W..
250
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
639
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
490
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
633
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1265
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1487
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1758
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1334
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1607
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
1958
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1541
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1634
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1748
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
1966


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!