I didn't hear anything up until the carmont try?

Then from 40-60 mins a few premature Wembley chants, before absolute silence up until the hooter.

I have spoken to quite a few wiganers since the game and we all agreed Saints fans were definitely the loudest yesterday but then again, we were underdogs so should be more vocal.

You can not deny though that 'you only sing when your winning' definitely applies to 'your lot'

Yesterday that mentality was in play. I suppose when you become a poor team with nothing to lose you tend to sing your hearts out

By the way, even though I thought you were great yesterday why were you singing:

1) Swing low sweet chariot
2) Just can't get enough ( Robbed off us )

Okay never knew that, quite funny IMO.

And we brought Just Can't get enough into RL, we can't have the two biggest rivals singing it! And i don't know, where i was it was bouncing, where you were probably the same. Fair play to the Saints fans who tried to stay as long as us. We were there for a good 30 minutes after FT! haha

Have to say that i could hear the wigan fans more going by the tv. When you were at KR there used to be a massive roar when
you got behind your side in the long standing end, always for me the loudest of any away games i went to. Will you have a
standing area next year? If so then you can definitely get it back again. In a funny sort of way, you not being as successful
at this time compared to normal will create a hunger within the fans. As a wire fan I know this as our atmosphere isn't as
good anymore unless were playing you or pies.

It is weird, that when we weren't as good, yes the fans got behind the team, but it wasn't a great atmosphere. Now we're top dogs again the atmosphere is brilliant, by far the best in the league (Except at the DW )

I think your resurgence in atmosphere started last season as your fans seemed to be more vocal even before you had any success. Perhaps a new optimism.

Yeah, we always have been good, but when Noble left, we had a new belief, but the Ultras have brought something good and new to the support. I love it.

I think the general consensus from redvee is that they're just hoping to set up an organised singing group rather than an ultra scene. It just makes people feel part of something and will no doubt increase the number of singers!

Although it can be very effective, the ultra scene runs the risk of getting out of hand. Also, I don't think it suits a 'family game'. However, Wigan seemed to have steered away from the ultra side of things and concentrated more on the singing side with the rebranding of the 'brigantes'. Its a more friendly brand and I think encourages more people (of all ages) to get involved.

Well played I say

Ultras (i'm guessing) refers to the flag side of things and not the violent side of things seen in italy. I think it brightens up
the stands and shows the commitment of the fans.

The ultra fans associated with football are full of vile hate. Would be interesting to see however, if they were as hard with no hoodies on
and no knives and play a proper game.