In your opinion they arent good enough , seriously at 16? how many current superstars were ripping up superleague at 16? very rare you get such people, I dont know if they will make it at Saints , no one does , all we know is that they are obviously highly rated by the staff at the club to be given contracts , Staff who do this sort of thing for a living , I would cut thekm some slack before declaring them fit for the bin , and no I dont expect to see any 16 year olds playing for the first team let them develop and be brought through in the proper way , you never know we might have one or two superstars among them , stranger things have happened , Saddened beng happy for example !!

I would agree with that, AT THIS POINT in their developement but who can deny the improvement in Cloughs game , Wheeler and Armstrong were covering for injuries last year and were in and out of the first team so who is to say how they will develop , I think you expect us to sign world beaters like in the beginning of super league ,, which incidentaly nearly bankrupted the club, has everyone forgotten that , I have been told until Mr Mac took over the reigns the club was within an ace of dissapearing so spending like that isnt fasable if we want a sustanable club, we HAVE to bring youngsters through and persevere with them , there is no quick fix .But also i would wonder who you would sign to improve the squad , quality world class players come on the market very rarely and as I say we dont have the cash to splash out on huge transfer fees like Newloves if we want to keep the club in existance.

Transfers fees aren't paid by anyone bar Warrington. I'm not suggesting that. But if we're really at the cap limit and couldn't compete for signings like Chris Hill, Darryl Griffin or Steffan Ratchford we must be doing something wrong.

If Leon's off, we must have oodles of cap room.

I bow your superior knowledge of whats going on in the club, who knows how much money we have to spend and maybe leons money is spread among the players we have signed, or maybe we werent nterested in thos players , who knows , I dont! , lets see what happens eh?

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Andre and Charnock are top players. Seen them play before.

Charnock now full back? used to play loose forward didn't he?