Never really seen that much in Luke Burgess to be honest. He lives off Sam's name I think, yet he's nowhere near as good.

i have burgess over griffin he is still young and could work out to be a very good signing

Griffin is miles better than Burgess. Burgess would be worth a punt as a try-it-and-see sort of signing, whereas Griffin would be a major signing in my book.

Burgess is much like Maurie

Good bit of grunt and the occasional go forward but frequently prone to brain farts.

I doubt he would leave Yorkshire too, he would fill a gap if only temporarily.

Lets be realistic if Leeds are letting him out on loan it will be to a team in the bottom group of the table.

So the idea is a non starter.

Still strange the reasoning behind it

Leeds have given permission for Ben Cross to talk to other clubs too. Looks like they are having a clear out for a big front row signing.

I'm very disappointed about this because prior to Cross and Perry coming over here I was really looking forward to those two getting into it but they've been a right pair of pasties.

I'm not sure he'd be a major signing, but he's better than Burgess.

I have. For instance he scored a winner against us at KR a few season s back and that game we had with a bit of biff, when Maurie got concussed, Burgess really stepped up a gear when the going got tough.

But those big performances, combined with the fact he struggles to cement a place must mean there's some big holes in his game somewhere. I think I recall a Leeds fans critisising his defence in some way.

Wasn't Baloo seen in the same light? not a lot of minute per game when at Bradford, came to Saints changed his game and was brilliant. ([sizebest kicker we have had[/size )