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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "I'm not getting into an argument with you, it's like trying to platt sand.'"
Translation: it was impossible to disagree with my point so you reverted to insulting me, as usual.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "
Ellis and Burgess didn't look any different at the weekend given their 'higher technical standard'! Graham looked superior to both of them.'"
She has made a very valid point here.
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "I'd like to see a day in my lifetime where England/GB/whatever could hold their own against the Aussies and the Kiwis on a regular basis and the best way to do this is for our players to play with the best players week in week out.'"
How does weakening the competition in which the majority of England players compete on a weekly basis achieve this end then ? The argument does not stack up for me. The stronger[i our[/i competition the stronger the national side will be.
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| Quote: Div "How does weakening the competition in which the majority of England players compete on a weekly basis achieve this end then ? The argument does not stack up for me. The stronger[i our[/i competition the stronger the national side will be.'"
well it has not been doing the trick so far then has it. That's why I think that our best young players should go to the best competion
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Really? Then why do they want to nick ours?
Ellis and Burgess didn't look any different at the weekend given their 'higher technical standard'! Graham looked superior to both of them.'"
Got to agree with you.
If their game is so superior, why are NZ current world champions and not the aussies and why would they want any of our players over there.
I'm sick of this inferiority complex many home fans have in respect to the NRL; it just reinforces a losing mentality.
Its just the same at international level. Why the flip are we letting them appoint tasmin archer as ref when there was a NZ alternative. How motivating is that for our team? Do the aussies need any more help?
Whoever from our side who is responsible for caving in needs sacking straight away.
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| Quote: joe d saint "well it has not been doing the trick so far then has it. That's why I think that our best young players should go to the best competion'"
When we beat Australia 10-33 in Melbourne how many of those players plied their trade in the NRL ?
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| Quote: saint at wire "I'm sick of this inferiority complex many home fans have in respect to the NRL; it just reinforces a losing mentality.'"
I totally agree.
Quote: saint at wire "Its just the same at international level. Why the flip are we letting them appoint tasmin archer as ref when there was a NZ alternative. How motivating is that for our team? Do the aussies need any more help?
Whoever from our side who is responsible for caving in needs sacking straight away.'"
I totally agree on that point too. I was dismayed when I heard that. Have we even insisted on an English video ref observer? My guess is not, even though international rules say that we can. The RFL is very weak. Pathetic, actually.
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| Quote: joe d saint "That's why I think that our best young players should go to the best competion'"
That's right. They should stay here.
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| Isn't the ref we sent over Silverwood?
I think I'd rather have Archer.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Isn't the ref we sent over Silverwood?
I think I'd rather have Archer.'"
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| Quote: jdrocket "hmmmm okay can't argue. If that is your opinion.
I honestly see him leaving soon though.
I feel that with a new chapter in saints history books; there should be a new captain who will be the new KC or better. He had four years as a real impact captain.
Can you honestly see James Graham stayiong that long? or even half of that?
I think he is a great player. Fast becoming the best prop in super league. But he is being called down under.'"
Graham is already the natural leader and talker on the field, who has the opportunity to become Saints captain for the next 10 years. Will he stay? Who knows, many people thought KC was going to leave at times during his career. If Graham isn't the new captain, who will be? Wellens seems the most obvious choice, but is hardly a long term option. Roby is a great player, but doesn't appear to be a leader. None of the young players are ready yet to step up. Other senior players, Pryce, Wilkin? Not for me. Graham is the clear choice, overlooking him as captain may simply reinforce his view that his future lies elsewhere.
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| Quote: Div "When we beat Australia 10-33 in Melbourne how many of those players plied their trade in the NRL ?'"
One off wins in lost series, in amongst some massive beatings. That's what UK based players give us, at best.
There is no question at all that players are better coached in Australia and are more used to playing in high intensity games. The evidence is boundless.
You only have to look at 2010 to see what an NRL assistant coach can do to experienced SL coaches.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "That's right. They should stay here.'"
You genuinely think our competition is better than the NRL?
Actually, I don't know why I'm surprised.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "You genuinely think our competition is better than the NRL? '"
I think you have no sense of humour.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I think you have no sense of humour.'"
Nah, I often find your posts hilarious.
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