He'll get better with experience. Longy was pretty good, but nothing more when he joined. After a few seasons, up until injuries started to take their toll and his confidence went, he was devastating.

'99 Grand Final, from the touch line - no problem for schlong. It was starnge the way he "went off" the goal kicking when he was so good.

Was thinking about Saints goalkicking when discussing junior players the other day...

Widnes signed up Danny Craven who I believe you guy's let go at an earlier age? And he is an excseptional kicker (as well as a future star I must add). But then I understood why you let him go as have Eastmond, Wheeler, Lomax, Lee Gaskell, Ellis all coming through who can cover between 1/6/7 but then all of those are cracking kickers IIRC?

I wonder if this is something Saints work on with their young starlets especially in playkicking spots just to give them that added extra as they come through?

It's a bit strange as when I first saw him at Widnes pre-season last year in a friendly he kicked 9 from 11 or something and some from both touchlines. Maybe he'll get better at the tricky ones over time like Hodgson/Tickle/Richards.

I see my motivational thread worked okay tonight. I'll go away to pen my thread about Francis Meli's lack of length of the field hat tricks .

Yup. Seven out of seven wasn't too bad, was it? And two touchline kicks as well. I reckon he's been slacking on the practice and that's why he's been dodgy around the touchline!

Well done Jamie Foster.

I believe that to be true and he is having an operation at the end of the season. Makes his performances even more impressive.

For kickers it would be interesting to see a 'pressure' statistic, as when you watch the likes of Sinfield, Hodgson, Richards kick when the pressure is really on they tend to deliver whereas maybe the likes of Westwood & co not as much! Young Foster seem's to have that attribute as well, kicked superbly last week!

Richards hasn't. He had three chances to win that play off game and never took one.

True I was letting him off with the last one as as near impossible most wouldn't of even took on, but their was the pen pretty straight be' should of nailed. Have seen him nail a few crucial ones before but your point us certainly a valid one and maybe Saturday will tell more...

His facebook page i saying he's struggling to make saturday with a calf injury.