we have had this discussion before and you live a heck of a lot closer to the waz than I

when I posted this, there was no news on McGuire and I along with several thousand others thought he was feigning injury to avoid being sent off for the cynical professional foul he did. I honestly thought he would be back in the semi-finals.

I wouldnt wish this type of injury on anyone. It has done your lot a favour as Leeds stand no chance of winning the play-offs now as McGuire is their one player who has been in good form recently (in fact the whole season), maybe they wont beat the stains 3 in a row now.

as for Sam, I have never seen him do a professional foul ever, please enlighten me. Though I would not put it past him had he been in McGuires boots on Sunday

You were posting in a thread entitled "McGuire out for the season - confirmed".

Either you're a liar or you're pretty stupid.

has the title not been changed?
what time was the announcement re McGuire's injury?
What time was my post?

I rest my case, m'lud

1. No, unless a MOD has done a cracking job and changed the RE:s aswell.
2. About the same time as the OP yesterday.
3. You tell us

No.
Before I started the thread, obviously.
After mine.

a very nasty injury, but hard to sympathise with an injury sustained while committing a foul. A bit like JJB a couple of weeks ago and Morley's eye socket. Live by the sword die by the sword.

I still don't see it so can't agree. He offers plenty for Leeds in SL but at international level I don't think he gets the room and is far less effective.

Terrible injury either way - maybe their daft Yiwi coach has brought this on his club with comments earlier in the year!

That though is Leeds season done I think (holds breath and thinks he's spoken too soon)

Never write off the rhinos.

We'll still have webb, burrow sinfield and smith for the attack.

We have 2 weeks to shape up and prepare for the game without mcguire.

We were in a worse position in 2008 and lifted the title.

No you weren't.

He's looked great whenever I've seen him lately.

I think a combination of him losing his international shirt to tomkins (or a lot of posters assuming its Sam's now) and Leeds not being in pole position has allowed posters to appreciate his game more and give a more balanced opinion.

I loath McGuire,the low down cheap shot merchant, but would not wish such an injury on him. If he sustained the injury in the course of fouling Carmont then I have even less sympathy.

He always smashed isn't he? Or was that just his dad?


Back to the topic, it's a shame for McGuire and a shame for Leeds, but not for England. Okay, he's had a great season, but he's still not international quality. Thankfully we have other half-back options to choose from now who are genuinely exciting.

Like who? Pryce is injured, Eastmond has mist most of the 2nd half of the season, Tomkins has played a large part of the season at full back. Burrow doesn't warrent selection based on this season. So who else are we going to pick? Kevin Brown? We'll be going into the 4 nations with pretty much no in form HBs.

Eastmond will be back, and at that level we can't trust Tomkins' shocking defence at full back. Myler will probably make the 'plane ahead of McGuire such is rugby league's current w[ia[/inkfest over Warrington.

I doubt Eastmond will be fit for the Four Nations. He can't string a full game together. It would have been good to watch him play, mind, but I can't see it myself.