The Saints Board and the Bulls one get on well (according to Peter Hood) and Hood said Saints are happy for Mick Potter to meet with Peter Hood, and have an input as long as it is either on his day off or on a night etc.

I'm sure our board will have cleared it with yours first!

And therein lies the problem - you've invested so much in criticising the bloke over minutiae (like somehow blaming a Gardner injury on Potter telling him to run into bigger players) that you're blinkered to what he actually brings to the role and the fine job he has done this season.

Complaints about a stilted attack and inability to score points have miraculously transformed into complaints about defence now we are SL's top scorers despite injury havoc amongst the backs all season - without the slightest bit of credit being offered for us being above the Warrington all-stars despite all our problems this year.

Even if we go backwards under Simmons with a stronger squad I doubt you'd give Potter any credit for how he performed in a difficult transition period for any coach.

Try assessing him and the situation he inherited with an open mind - you might just come to different conclusions.

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Harsh!!

i think it was spot on!

So do i.

I wasn't a fan of Potter last season, but this season you can't fault him. Hes done very, very well considering what hes had to work with.

Not really.

The biggest difference in the anti Potter camp to the pro Potter camp (bar the obvious) is that whilst the pro camp can and do accept that he has made mistakes and don't think he's the best thing since sliced bread, the anti camp almost always cannot accept that he has done positive things and pretty much paint him as the right hand man of the devil.

If you looked at my posts from before he arrived here you will see that I was concerned about two things prior to his arrivalEven if we go backwards under Simmons with a stronger squad I doubt you'd give Potter any credit for how he performed in a difficult transition period for any coach.'"

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There's a difference between saying a coach has done a good job in the circumstances and thinking he's JC.

There is even a non-Saints fan on the coach of the year thread on the VT nominating Potter, given how he's dragged Saints to 2nd (so far) in a turbulent season, and a year when people would freely admit Warrington (below us) have been very, very good and relatively healthy.

The only people who seem unwilling to admit he's done well with what he's had this year are those who were knee-jerking against him after one game this season (incidentally, one game after a grand final we very nearly won) - funny that. Here's hoping he leaves on a high and gets a bit of credit.

And there's a difference between giving a coach a chance, keeping an open mind, becoming convinced over time that he isn't doing us much good, and all the drivel you come out with in regard to those of us who aren't at all upset that he's going.


What a total load of bollox. It isn't worth discussing this with you as all you want to do is bitch.

He's hardly done a bad job has he? 2nd last year, 2nd this year (3rd at worse), two Challenge Cup Semi Finals and a Grand Final. We've had our ups and downs with Potter, but the positives outweigh the negatives.

I don't look at it like that, as I've said a squillion times before on here. I look at how we are playing; that's my judge of what a coach is about. Getting silverware and a good place in the league can be about the competition as well as the team's performance.

If a judgment is made according to your yardstick - and there's nothing wrong with it - we slipped down to second last season; we didn't achieve it. We lost five of our last eight matches. Semi finals, third/second place ... no-one remembers the runners up, or have you forgotten the days of Wigan domination?

I think it's interesting how some people's expectations and standards have slipped over the last two seasons. Many fans are now really happy when we just get a win. Potter's had a very positive impact!

i drove past a billboard with this poster on today on the M62 around leeds, bit naughty if you ask me

I don't think Anderson had Wello, Long or Cunningham at their peek! Except maybe in the 2006 season, and I'm not comparing us now to the 2006 season. We won't see that kind of team or success again possibly for a generation. People on here, including I think yourself, were saying at the back end of Anderson's time that we were an ageing squad, etc, etc. We aren't now! I think our squad competes with Wigan, Wire and Leeds, and that is including our young guys who, with the exception of Gaskell, Armstrong and Dean, have stood up extremely well at first grade. A good coach will bring out the best of any squad of players and I think our players are better than what we have seen in terms of performance this season. They aren't the 2006 squad - no team in SL have that team - but they are significantly better than I think you are giving them credit for and certainly better than, say, the first half at Wrexham suggested!


Leeds have not improved. They have looked jaded this season. Sure, they are still competitive and will (unfortunately) probably win the Challenge Cup. But they are not the team they were even last year, and last year they were showing cracks. Warrington and Wigan - well, they've had new coaches! They are both pretty much the same teams as they were under Cullen and Noble, yet their new coaches have brought them on to new levels. Unlike ours.


Well, we'll have to disagree on that one. When I see their ball retention and overall discipline on the field; when I see their poor defence; their poor motivation and/or endurance levels; their lack of coordination in attack (even now, after all those rounds, when the players must be used to shifting places given the amount of practice they have had) ... I just cannot agree.

And I don't think Potter has ever really been at Saints, which is why I'm not at all surprised to see him agreeing to have his photo on the flyer of a rival club. He couldn't be bothered doing that kind of thing at Saints, could he? Couldn't even communicate with the fans. Or smile. Or anything really.

I'll be glad to see him go.