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| Quote: SaintsFan "We've had a similar problem last season and this. Are you saying there is something suspect about Potter's training techniques?
He has training techniques?
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| Quote: Journeyman "I watched a good game on thursday with two dam good coaches, Millward and Cullen, and Cullen was scathing of his teams performance, and would no doubt of heard about it, but we have this immitation coach who seemingly sta nds for rocks breaking over his head, and for me the sooner he goes the better, I would love to see one of the above coaches at St Helens, ie one for a second stint and the other first time, at least they show some emmotion, and can be seen trying to get things done and change tactics but sorry our guy is totally Bl**dy clueless, sod off.'"
Oh yeah, I forgot how great a coach Cullen was. Remind me how he went last time he coached in Super League? Any coach can shout at his players and "show some emotion", I doubt most of them could get to 3rd in the table with an injury-hit squad.
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| Im not saying we want or should have cullen, but at least he shows passion or something but potter at best is a cardboard cut out, and where was he when the cameras went to the dressing room at half time it was not he that was talking.
Maybe Ive got it all wrong its just for me a personal thing I never wanted him here in the first place so maybe Ive got a downer on him.
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| Quote: Journeyman "Im not saying we want or should have cullen, but at least he shows passion or something but potter at best is a cardboard cut out, and where was he when the cameras went to the dressing room at half time it was not he that was talking.
Maybe Ive got it all wrong its just for me a personal thing I never wanted him here in the first place so maybe Ive got a downer on him.'"
The cameras weren't trained on the changing rooms for the whole of half time - we have no idea what was and wasn't said and by whom.
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| Quote: Trav2005 "I see every town has a village idiot and you are it. The poop you spout week in week out makes me ashamed that I support saints.
You believe wello has to cover every blade of grass on the pitch, wrong he has to be helped out by his back line of centres and wingers.
Grow up and be gratefull for the players we have and what we have acheived in superleague muppet.'"
I am grateful for the success we've had and for Wello's contribution throughout his career. However his contract is up I believe (Correct me if I'm wrong) and I can't honestly see any reason to keep him other than sentimentality. He is too slow and his ability to 'be there' has deserted him. Look at Broughton's try, would any other fullback in SL have looked so foolish? They would have been there quicker and made a proper attempt to tackle him. I seem to be the only person who sees any wrong in him. He let the ball go out on the full from the kick off, missed a few key tackles, knocked on about 2 or 3 times for tries from kicks and just had an absolute mare throughout.
Gardner, rightly, has been panned on here for his errors, but all of those were situations where the fullback should be taking charge of things and dealing with them. I would have Leon at fullback next week, Wello at centre if Flannery isn't back.
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| Quote: saint at wire "He has training techniques?'"
Sigh.
I know people have enjoyed quoting Sculthorpe allegedly having a go at Potter as some sort of justification that he's a clueless coach. The thing is, people tend not to quote a couple of Scully's more pertinent comments
Quote: saint at wire "He has had to bring in young kids who, when they started, were not up to it. At the time, they were not Super League standard and were too inexperienced to be playing for Saints. If Potter is improving these current players, then he has to take credit for that even if we don't win anything this year. I think the fans understand that but they don't like saying it.'"
Potter should not be judged on one game at home to Hull, nor one game away at Salford missing 7 or so players where he was let down badly by some of his internationals. He should be judged at the end of this contract (when he could theoretically have won the double) and even in the seasons to come if the young players he has spent two years coaching through a period of transition for the side develop into the players we all hope they will.
I still firmly believe he is doing well in some very testing circumstances this season and that we are well placed to challenge on all fronts.
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| Well said
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[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I am grateful for the success we've had and for Wello's contribution throughout his career. However his contract is up I believe (Correct me if I'm wrong) and I can't honestly see any reason to keep him other than sentimentality. He is too slow and his ability to 'be there' has deserted him. Look at Broughton's try, would any other fullback in SL have looked so foolish? They would have been there quicker and made a proper attempt to tackle him. I seem to be the only person who sees any wrong in him. He let the ball go out on the full from the kick off, missed a few key tackles, knocked on about 2 or 3 times for tries from kicks and just had an absolute mare throughout.
Gardner, rightly, has been panned on here for his errors, but all of those were situations where the fullback should be taking charge of things and dealing with them. I would have Leon at fullback next week, Wello at centre if Flannery isn't back.'"
Wellens was diabolical all game.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Sigh.
I know people have enjoyed quoting Sculthorpe allegedly having a go at Potter as some sort of justification that he's a clueless coach. The thing is, people tend not to quote a couple of Scully's more pertinent comments
Sorry. Didn't realise irony was now banned.
The alternative view is that the players have done very well this year in spite of Potter. Hmmm?
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| Quote: saint at wire "Sorry. Didn't realise irony was now banned.
The alternative view is that the players have done very well this year in spite of Potter. Hmmm?'"
S'pose Catalan did very well in spite of him also?
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| Quote: saint at wire "The alternative view is that the players have done very well this year in spite of Potter. Hmmm?'"
You wonder why anybody bothers having a coach at all, since the players can sort themselves out so easily.
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| Quote: Cragganmore Kid "S'pose Catalan did very well in spite of him also?'"
Different set of players, different culture, different expectations ...
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| Quote: FearTheVee "The cameras weren't trained on the changing rooms for the whole of half time - we have no idea what was and wasn't said and by whom.'"
Good point you are right.
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Different set of players, different culture, different expectations ...'"
You mean our players aren't as good as Catalans players were?
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "You mean our players aren't as good as Catalans players were?'"
Where did I say that?
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