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| Quote: Blobbynator "I don't think it was malicious from Elima, but if you catch your opponent in the head with an elbow you deserve a red card and a ban to come with it. He gets no sympathy from me on that.
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I don't think Elimer connected with an elbow to Lomax's head. If he had I would agree that would be bad and probably deserving of a straight red. Elimer appeared to catch Lomax with his shoulder and then his arm came up after the impact. I wasn't aware that the use of the shoulder was illegal in RL indeed Bailey on Fa'asavalu last season would suggest that it isn't, unless the law has been changed.
A very quick decision from Ganson which is unlike him as he usually pretends to consult his touch judges while taking advice from the video referee when he's available.
I hope Lomax makes a quick recovery.
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| Quote: Don Brennan "icon_lol.gif
Don, grow up mate.
I remember a incident last year but can't really recall the tackle, Morleys hit last night was no worse than Elimas and no red card, unlike is hit the week before on Sherwin that deserved one.
If the RFL back up Ganson then fine and i hope whatever the outcome Lomax as suffered no more than a dizzy head from it and is ok.
The game needs to do all it can to protect players.
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| Sending off sufficient
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| Quote: Two Wheeled Saint "Sending off sufficient'"
I agree.
I just wish other refs would send off after such tackles but Ganson appears to be the only one with any cajones.
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| Agreed, sending off sufficient would be my verdict.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Don, grow up mate.
I remember a incident last year but can't really recall the tackle, Morleys hit last night was no worse than Elimas and no red card, unlike is hit the week before on Sherwin that deserved one.
If the RFL back up Ganson then fine and i hope whatever the outcome Lomax as suffered no more than a dizzy head from it and is ok.
The game needs to do all it can to protect players.'"
In your opinion,mine is that Lomax had beaten Elima with good footwork and the only way the former Wakey player could stop him was with a very late and quickly raised arm,and he certainly stopped him.
If the RFL see it your way then fine, we got the points but more importantly Lomax looked okay sat on the bench.
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| Quote: Don Brennan "In your opinion,mine is that Lomax had beaten Elima with good footwork and the only way the former Wakey player could stop him was with a very late and quickly raised arm,and he certainly stopped him.
If the RFL see it your way then fine, we got the points but more importantly Lomax looked okay sat on the bench.'"
We'll see what the RFL say.
Well thats the main thing and i hope he's fit to play friday night.
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "We'll see what the RFL say.
Well thats the main thing and i hope he's fit to play friday night.'"
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "I can't really see a problem with it, well done to Lomax for carrying on.'"
Well done to Lomax for carrying on enough to get over the line two tackles later, then coming off not to return!
Elima isn't a dirty player, but the tackle was a bad one. You can clearly see on the shot from behind the posts that he lifts the elbow to go for Lomax, then follows though the head. If Elima hadn't lifted his elbow he wouldn't have made contact with Lomax! Dirty player? no, Malicious tackle? unfortunately yes
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| Quote: Cala Millor Rhino "Elima isn't a dirty player, but the tackle was a bad one. You can clearly see on the shot from behind the posts that he lifts the elbow to go for Lomax, then follows though the head. If Elima hadn't lifted his elbow he wouldn't have made contact with Lomax! Dirty player? no, Malicious tackle? unfortunately yes'"
fair assessment
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| Quote: Saint Simon "fair assessment'"
Thats because I've watched it a fair few times last night and this morning. The normal camera angle doesn't show it, it was later in the game that Orange showed the shot from behind the goals, thats when you see the full impact!
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| Guy gets banned or not doesnt really matter as long as Lomax is ok. I was impressed with him in pre season too , if he keeps playing well Gardner should be made to wait for his chance
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Guy gets banned or not doesnt really matter as long as Lomax is ok. '"
More of a worry for him given the three plates in his head. How he got up and even played never mind scored after that hit amazed me.
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| It looked to me like he was saying that he was seeing double when he came off, if that's so he did exceptionally well to score the try. Hopefully he hasn't got concussion and can play next week, for all the talent he has, Wheeler is no winger.
On the tackle, it looked to me like the contact was from Elima's shoulder. Mathers did Gilmour at the JJB a year or two back in the same manner and nothing was done, and I'm not sure it was intentional, so sending off sufficient for me.
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| Didn't look too bad to me. An attempted big hit that went wrong due to Lomax's footwork. Sending off sufficient.
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