Whilst accepting your Saints bias . you openly admit that some of the above have underacheived and many are a work in progress , will you still stand by your previous claim that you have the best individual talent in the league by some distance ?

Exceptional talent no doubt , but thats a bit like Leeds fans claiming Sinfield as the best Hooker in the league is it not ?

Sinfield probably would be the best British hooker in the league if he played there.

I grew up with the 70s and 80s teams, and in a lot of ways think that they were far more healthy for the club and speccies, not only of Saints, but also for other clubs and the league in general. I remember the chat being how this was going to be "our year for Wembley". There were all sorts of theories about how we got there every 4 or 5 or 6 years, and when we did get there it was fantastic. The whole town was buzzing. Getting to Wembley now, or the GF, is expected, there is very little magic about it, and leads to this reaction after one poor performance.

The salary cap is bringing back the days when different teams could expect to win trophies, and although Leeds are still in the hot seat, I don't think its a bad thing that Saints or Wigan or Leeds or Bradford can't dominate. If the natural order means that Hull or Hudds win things, then I am all for it. However, if it means that Wigan wins, then that just isn't natural!!

I dont quite follow, our no 7 Kyle played no.7 for England in the world cup. Sinfield is Leeds 13, or had you forgot???

I think hew was getting at the point of Sinfield has played 9 for England and Horne has played on the wing also but it doesnt mean its their natural position

I too stuggle with him there. You need an organiser and he isnt 1 and although Pryce should step up he didnt on Friday.

He is/was an excellent centre though Eastmond.

First of all I am by no means gloating, I come from a long line of Saints fans and they were the first team I ever saw and even supported, but being a London lad with family in a Town I would visit once every 7-8 years or so didn't do much for my continued support! Anyway, I don't want to see Saints do badly...I just accept it as part of sport and life in general. Every dog has it's day, of course you'll be there or there abouts at seasons end...but you aren't the side of four or five years ago.

Got to disagree with Gidley as best centre in the league, my Dad feels the same and reckons he's better than Newlove...no chance in my eyes! Newlove was the best centre in the history of Super league, followed by Senior and Lyon.

Pryce is maybe not the right type of SO to support Eastmond, I'll probably be proved wrong but there it is. I actually feel Kevin Brown would be a good fit for Eastmond.....doubt many if any on here will agree though.

Still, keep the faith but be prepared for a season or two without a trophy. Leeds (unfortunately) are still the team to beat, fancy Wigan more than Warrington myself.

Newlove wasnt as good as Lyon, Senior or Connolly, Lyon was by far the best SL has seen at centre.

Maybe. Strong competition from Yeaman.



For everything in the locker, read "Can high tackle at will and devastate player's faces".



Provided Potter doesn't decide to keep him on the pitch when injured.



Hmm. He could be, but needs to work on his discipline.



I'm a bigger fan of Puletua than Graham.



Shame he's crap, really.



UNDESERVEDLY MOS in 2007. Seriously, there were more deserving players at Saints, Wellens for one.



Promising talent, need to see more of him.



See Wheeler.

Glad no-one mentioned Cunningham as being a "world-beater".




Lyon was brilliant, but think he may have struggled had he played opposite Renouf.

Dont think he would really. When Renouf came he was past his best (still good) but Lyon was awesome and in his prime.

It is a shame it's a match-up we'll never see. It could have been epic.

Without seeing it, it'd be hard to say either of them is truly the "Best Centre SL has ever seen".

Kirk Yeaman best centre in the league and Puletua better than Graham.

Spot on mate. I remember us being crap but we were never this dull. I enjoy willing like the rest of us but if we cant win I'd at least rather see us go down in style!

I can never remember you guys being crap. When we were winning everything you guys were always there or there abouts. In nearly every final or semi, I know its not winning trophies but you guys were never crap.