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7588.jpg [quote="Broxy Music":2u9e3dwe] Its sad , but wigan is a football town[/quote:2u9e3dwe]
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For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: tm - tl "A lot of people are bagging Hargreaves which i don't really understand. Apart from the mistake Saturday (in which 3 players were caught out) he hasn't put a foot wrong. He may not be a world beater but he certainly puts his hand up and gets stuck in. Ramps up every set, doesn't miss a great deal in defence, not sure on his handling errors but it doesn't strike me as being poor.
Who else would we get in to play for the money he is getting? Give the lad a break! Fact of the matter is we can't have a squad of 20+ world beaters.'"
When you signed him a few on here asked my opinion, what tm - tl has just posted is what I said about him, an honest hard working prop, but never top class.
At Wigan we had a choice of Prescott, Hargreaves and O'Carroll who is a year or two younger. IMO Wigan made the right choice in letting Bryn go.
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| Leon move to Centre or wing (Leon is banned from kicking)
Wheeler at 6
Kyle at 7
Meli takes over from Gilly in the pack
Gardner keeps his wing place (for now, untill his contract runs out)
Armstrong on t'other wing
Soliola centre for Pryce
Bring Kevin Ward back
Maurie told he does not pass the ball EVER
Hargreaves told to watch Jammer more
Potter given more time
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| Quote: Shawy "Leon move to Centre or wing (Leon is banned from kicking)
Wheeler at 6
Kyle at 7
Meli takes over from Gilly in the pack
Gardner keeps his wing place (for now, untill his contract runs out)
Armstrong on t'other wing
Soliola centre for Pryce
Bring Kevin Ward back
Maurie told he does not pass the ball EVER
Hargreaves told to watch Jammer more
Potter given more time
To add his blistering pace to our attack lol
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| Quote: Joynty11 "
Mick PotterGive me a break. We lost the GF in an very close fashion, just as we lost to Leeds closely a few weeks ago. We beat them twice ealier in the season, don't forget (i was extraordinarily happy with the way we beat them at headingly). We've also turned in some excellent defensive performances in the playoffs.
The game significantly changed this year and robbed us of our main tactic of the quick play and scoot (which wasn't exactly rocket science from DA), add to that our main playmaker has gone steadily down hill, Cayless hasn't played at all and our board is expecting young players to do the job of seasoned pros.
Potter's job is to get the most amoount of Ws he can, and he didn't do a bad job.
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "And how do we fund your lavish spree?'" lol, well thats the easy bit. You can sell or offload as many players as you want, however the coach is most pivotal.
The chairman either trusts potter to coach a group of players whomever that may be or .......
you dont trust him, get rid and bring in someone else.
The chairman in this case is most pivotal as he needs to see how many boxes potter ticks of the 5 most important leadership traits
Honest ? will be if he tells meli he is sh** and gets rid
Forward-Looking ? beyond 10yards would be better
Competent ? I will give him that one
Inspiring ? 1/2 time dressing room didnt look inspired
Intelligent ? benefit ot the doubt
personally speaking, i reckon although trophyless the season was ok,
defensivelylooked better than most
offensively we weren't at the races
if i was chairmen i would change things, get after noble whilst he is on the market. Thats nothing against potter, but i wouldnt want to find out next october that i should have changed things now.
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| Quote: jonah77 "lol, well thats the easy bit. You can sell or offload as many players as you want, however the coach is most pivotal.
The chairman either trusts potter to coach a group of players whomever that may be or .......
you dont trust him, get rid and bring in someone else.
The chairman in this case is most pivotal as he needs to see how many boxes potter ticks of the 5 most important leadership traits
Honest ? will be if he tells meli he is sh** and gets rid
Forward-Looking ? beyond 10yards would be better
Competent ? I will give him that one
Inspiring ? 1/2 time dressing room didnt look inspired
Intelligent ? benefit ot the doubt
personally speaking, i reckon although trophyless the season was ok,
defensivelylooked better than most
offensively we weren't at the races
if i was chairmen i would change things, get after noble whilst he is on the market. Thats nothing against potter, but i wouldnt want to find out next october that i should have changed things now.'"
I really really hope your taking the p!ss !!! swap 1 5 drives and a kick man for another? I think not
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Give me a break. We lost the GF in an very close fashion, just as we lost to Leeds closely a few weeks ago. We beat them twice ealier in the season, don't forget (i was extraordinarily happy with the way we beat them at headingly). We've also turned in some excellent defensive performances in the playoffs.
The game significantly changed this year and robbed us of our main tactic of the quick play and scoot (which wasn't exactly rocket science from DA), add to that our main playmaker has gone steadily down hill, Cayless hasn't played at all and our board is expecting young players to do the job of seasoned pros.
Potter's job is to get the most amoount of Ws he can, and he didn't do a bad job.'"
Yeah your right the game has significantly changed but Potter has changed our style of play and it has set us backwards there is no doubting that. Our defence has improved point taken but we have failed to score more than 15 points in the last 8 weeks of the season so that tells me our offensive play has gone way downhill. We have gone backwards this year and changes have to be made. Potter hasnt got the most out of us because as I said before our attacking play has gone backwards to non existant at times and Im sorry if you dont agree with this but he has to go. As for Cayless he should have been released at the end of 2008 due to his injuries and replaced accordingly that was a big mistake as Jammer has taken on the workload of two props this season and Ive said this before he will end up like Stuart Fielden if his workload isnt cut.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "I love posters like this!
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Make up your mind mate!'"
That point was made earlier in the season when Leeds were going through a bad spell which I didnt see them coming through. I stand corrected and they fully deserved to win Super League.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "I really really hope your taking the p!ss !!! swap 1 5 drives and a kick man for another? I think not'"
what about cullen
your right, we should wait until next year, when everyone else improves again and they may even over take us as second best.
But at least we will all sleep better because we did the "noble" thing and stuck with potter!
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| Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "Other than that I think the side is fine. Pryce will have to start pulling his finger out, though'"
Perhaps he will once Long's gone. From an outsider's perspective, it often seems that he's content to play a secondary role to Long in terms of dictating play. I don't doubt he's got the ability but I would question whether he has confidence in that ability.
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| Quote: Clearwing "Perhaps he will once Long's gone. From an outsider's perspective, it often seems that he's content to play a secondary role to Long in terms of dictating play. I don't doubt he's got the ability but I would question whether he has confidence in that ability.'" nope, dont think thats the issue, as long was out for ages and pryce didnt improve any.
plenty of ability, and he is by no means rubbish
i just think he cant be bothered, and lost his appetite. it would be interesting to know what his attitude is like in training.
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| Quote: Joynty11 "snip'" The attack has 1 dimensional, which has stifled us and forced us up the middle, but to demand his head after 1 season where he's taken the reigns of and ageing and shriking squad, finished 2nd in the table, got to the semis of the CC (beaten by a very good Hudds performance) and narrowly lost the GF is folly imo. This is the guy who got the Catalans to third in the table, remember - you don't become a bad coach overnight!
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "The attack has 1 dimensional, which has stifled us and forced us up the middle, but to demand his head after 1 season where he's taken the reigns of and ageing and shriking squad, finished 2nd in the table, got to the semis of the CC (beaten by a very good Hudds performance) and narrowly lost the GF is folly imo. This is the guy who got the Catalans to third in the table, remember - you don't become a bad coach overnight!'" nobody thinks he is a bad coach, they would be fools to. however many people may choose to dislike his coaching
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "The attack has 1 dimensional, which has stifled us and forced us up the middle, but to demand his head after 1 season where he's taken the reigns of and ageing and shriking squad, finished 2nd in the table, got to the semis of the CC (beaten by a very good Hudds performance) and narrowly lost the GF is folly imo. This is the guy who got the Catalans to third in the table, remember - you don't become a bad coach overnight!'" on a similar note, fielden became a bad prop over night so it is possible.
figure out which icon is willie, and which is fielden
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