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| Quote: Saddened! "And? Playing prop isn't about metres per carry if you hide and don't make many hit ups.
If Morley and Graham had done the same amount of carries as each other it would be the deciding stat, but all your change of emphasis does is make me question whether Morley works hard enough, given that his team are 10th in SL and absolutely terrible.'"
*awaits 'We're are the Challenge Cup Winners 2009..' speech*  |
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[b:2cam5ipi]Novae Mentis Templa Colimus - Together we achieve success.[/b:2cam5ipi]
[quote="theres only one stan wall":2cam5ipi]Not bothered because Wigan will win comfortably, Leeds pack is decimated.[/quote:2cam5ipi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44466.gif |
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|  Whey, another thread on JG. Fantastic. I actually agree with his omission but cant put my finger on it why. Also, i think Peacock has been good in both attack and defence, although i dont think Morley was a cert. to be in there.
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| Quote: miscreant "Well, it looks like it would have been a very close-run thing in the voting with Peacock and Morley...you don't think Graham's anti-Murrayfield Magic comments went against him by any chance do you ? ![]()
Somehow I don't think what Graham said or what he did matters a bit in the decision making, unless the press people have suddenly become soft in the head. He made a good point about players playing in very hot weather last season but was still included in the dream team last year. Sean Long is not the best boy in town but he's won the Lance Todd three times, so methinks your suggestion is garbage.
I believe I know why James Graham was left out. It is because the RFL and the media this season have had a very clear agenda to give other clubs a turn. Leeds would be represented in the dream team whether deserving or not because most of the media blokes are based in Yorkshire. But aside from that, it's all about the 'smaller clubs' this season.
Oh how I would love us to win the Grand Final. As unlikely as it sounds - in fact it sounds positively far fetched - it would be a great finger in the eyeball to all and sundry to see us lift that cup and be called Champions on Sky all next season. Just for the rub it in value. *sigh*
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[b:2cam5ipi]Novae Mentis Templa Colimus - Together we achieve success.[/b:2cam5ipi]
[quote="theres only one stan wall":2cam5ipi]Not bothered because Wigan will win comfortably, Leeds pack is decimated.[/quote:2cam5ipi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44466.gif |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "
I believe I know why James Graham was left out. It is because the RFL and the media this season have had a very clear agenda to give other clubs a turn. Leeds would be represented in the dream team whether deserving or not because most of the media blokes are based in Yorkshire. But aside from that, it's all about the 'smaller clubs' this season.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Oh how I would love us to win the Grand Final. As unlikely as it sounds - in fact it sounds positively far fetched - it would be a great finger in the eyeball to all and sundry to see us lift that cup and be called Champions on Sky all next season. Just for the rub it in value. *sigh*'"
There hasn't been a detractor in the press or anywhere else who has spouted as much negative nonsense about Saints this year as you have recently. |
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| Quote: FearTheVee "There hasn't been a detractor in the press or anywhere else who has spouted as much negative nonsense about Saints this year as you have recently.'"
Not talking about detractors; talking about agenda, since clearly you are unable to read. You know what the word 'agenda' means, don't you hon? Have a think about it, then just ignore my posts from now on ok? You are a deeply unpleasant person and I will be ignoring you from now on. |
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
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IMO jammer is by far the best prop in super league. I think mozza has pushed him pretty close but how as peacock made it before graham?
I'm a big fan of JP but he's not been a patch on jammer this year from the games I've seen him.
IMO jammer, mozza and hodgson are front runners for man of steel.
I was a little shocked that gidley made it. Don't think he's had a pass for last 4 month.
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| Quote: Saddened! "And? Playing prop isn't about metres per carry if you hide and don't make many hit ups.
If Morley and Graham had done the same amount of carries as each other it would be the deciding stat, but all your change of emphasis does is make me question whether Morley works hard enough, given that his team are 10th in SL and absolutely terrible.'"
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| Quote: St pete "I was a little shocked that gidley made it. Don't think he's had a pass for last 4 month.'"
I thought the same, in attack at least he's been a shadow of the player he's been, though I suspect this has been as much down to the lack of service and improvements in opposition defence against him.
Graham's omission is frankly bemusing. |
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Swap Graham for Peacock and it's a reasonable selection. I'm not sure that Tomkins has done enough to get in although the competition in that position has been pretty weak and he's certainly performed relatively well in front of the cameras. Not dissimilar to Penny's inclusion in that Dream Team from a couple of years ago.
Going back to Graham, only one top metre maker, as a prop, has not featured in the Super League Dream Team since 2003 (don't have stats from before that) and that's Terry O'Connor from his 2005 season (he rattled up 4,104m). In every season since 2003 the top metre making prop has appeared in the Super League team except for the two record breakers, O'Connor and Graham. Bizarre.
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
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| Quote: Tony Stark "I thought the same, in attack at least he's been a shadow of the player he's been, though I suspect this has been as much down to the lack of service and improvements in opposition defence against him.
Graham's omission is frankly bemusing.'"
Gidley still huge threat in attack but never gets any ball.
Super league must be short of centres |
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i know dobson has won the albert goldthorpe medal bla bla but i.mo brough is a far better player and deserves to be in there
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Somehow I don't think what Graham said or what he did matters a bit in the decision making, unless the press people have suddenly become soft in the head. He made a good point about players playing in very hot weather last season but was still included in the dream team last year. Sean Long is not the best boy in town but he's won the Lance Todd three times, so methinks your suggestion is garbage.
I believe I know why James Graham was left out. It is because the RFL and the media this season have had a very clear agenda to give other clubs a turn. Leeds would be represented in the dream team whether deserving or not because most of the media blokes are based in Yorkshire. But aside from that, it's all about the 'smaller clubs' this season.
Oh how I would love us to win the Grand Final. As unlikely as it sounds - in fact it sounds positively far fetched - it would be a great finger in the eyeball to all and sundry to see us lift that cup and be called Champions on Sky all next season. Just for the rub it in value. *sigh*'"
You're twisting my melon, man.
You're radio rental. |
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "You're twisting my melon, man.
You're radio rental.'"
I was in nappies in the 60s, so you'll have to explain yourself if you want me to understand you. |
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| Quote: kendall17 "although i dont think Morley was a cert. to be in there.
Does more carries mean that JG carried Saints forward and the rest of your props were "hiding"?'"
Morley has been brilliant this year! |
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