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| Quote: Saint Simon "The eternal optimist here
You are, as well, aren't you? I don't think I've ever read a pessimistic post from you. How do you do it? My last sliver of hope slipped away tonight. I just couldn't hold on to it at all. It was too slithery for me to keep my grip.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "You are, as well, aren't you? I don't think I've ever read a pessimistic post from you. How do you do it? My last sliver of hope slipped away tonight. I just couldn't hold on to it at all. It was too slithery for me to keep my grip.'"
i do it by growing up in the eighties, getting ritual humiliation by wigan throughout my childhood, getting laughed at when we lost 27-0 at wembley, but this has taught me to appreiciate the fabulous team we have now and anyone who thinks second in the league and a cup semi final is failure, may i direct you to our friends over the lump
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
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| Quote: Saint Simon "i do it by growing up in the eighties, getting ritual humiliation by wigan throughout my childhood, getting laughed at when we lost 27-0 at wembley, but this has taught me to appreiciate the fabulous team we have now and anyone who thinks second in the league and a cup semi final is failure, may i direct you to our friends over the lump'"
I remember saying things like that in 2003/2004!
The writing was on the wall for us at that time as well!
I also remember saying in a couple of threads that when a period of dominance ends in nearly every sport the Team & It's supporters are also the last ones to see it.
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| Quote: Jukesays "I remember saying things like that in 2003/2004!
The writing was on the wall for us at that time as well!
I also remember saying in a couple of threads that when a period of dominance ends in nearly every sport the Team & It's supporters are also the last ones to see it.
I just hope you're wrong, but there are uncertain times ahead. Hopefully saints will learn from wigan's mistakes
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icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
"The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth."
Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I just hope you're wrong, but there are uncertain times ahead. Hopefully saints will learn from wigan's mistakes'"
I think we had a few more problems than you guys do and TBH the mindset of the fans is slightly different (Although I'm beginning to doubt that seeing some of the reactions of your guys) which means I don't think you will drop as far as we did.
However
Once you drop that 10-15% back to the Pack you just can't turn it around overnight and become as dominant again.
Existing contracts,SC, Lack of income, other attractive options for coaches/Players, focussing on a New stadium etc all play a part in having to look for a more long term solution to the problem than is ideal.
A lot of our fans have struggled to accept that, will yours?
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note to self, must remember to log T-other half out first
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| Quote: Jukesays "
A lot of our fans have struggled to accept that, will yours?'" By a lot of reactions that can be seen here and heard around the ground then nope I think a lot of them won't.
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| Quote: gateaux "By a lot of reactions that can be seen here and heard around the ground then nope I think a lot of them won't.'"
Last night was about the performances we have had this season when we have had the same squad - the same squad, that is - which took us to silverware last season and which won 20 games on the trot. We fans were expecting the slide into mediocrity next season with the loss of Longy, Gilly and possibly Keiron. Not this season. The demise has been a shock because it has come so very early to a team which fundamentally hasn't changed. It's like watching a totally different Saints to the one Anderson coached to success the previous three seasons. Yet it's the same team!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Last night was about the performances we have had this season when we have had the same squad - the same squad, that is - which took us to silverware last season and which won 20 games on the trot. We fans were expecting the slide into mediocrity next season with the loss of Longy, Gilly and possibly Keiron. Not this season. The demise has been a shock because it has come so very early to a team which fundamentally hasn't changed. It's like watching a totally different Saints to the one Anderson coached to success the previous three seasons. Yet it's the same team!'" with the losses from the squad last year, i'd have been happy with 4th reasonably. Longy, KC, Gidley, and gilly all well over 30, wello slowing down, etc, etc. yet 2nd in the league and a cup semi with the most horrendous injury list i've seen in my 31 yrs
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| Get a grip people, you've simply hit a temporary bad patch at the wrong point in the season.
But I must admit, it raises a smile to see listed as a positive "Lomax caught a high ball whilst running backwards"
feck me, whatever next?
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| Quote: BillyRhino "Get a grip people, you've simply hit a temporary bad patch at the wrong point in the season.'"
Dont think it's that simple mate.
It's not just the results, it's the lack of gameplan, lack of motivation, lack of organisation, lack of ideas, and that the players seemingly couldnt give a s*it.
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| Quote: OoOGazOoO "Dont think it's that simple mate.
It's not just the results, it's the lack of gameplan, lack of motivation, lack of organisation, lack of ideas, and that the players seemingly couldnt give a s*it.'"
Most accurate comment so far.
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| Quote: OoOGazOoO "Dont think it's that simple mate.
It's not just the results, it's the lack of gameplan, lack of motivation, lack of organisation, lack of ideas, and that the players seemingly couldnt give a s*it.'"
Mate, i'm sorry to quote you again but look further into the game.
Lack of game plan - Could be that we are trialing new things, Pryce certainly played 30 mins at Loose last night...
Lack of organisation - As above with Pryce, Long is only in his 3rd/4th game back, Arnold moved from 6 to full back on a few occasions.
Lack of ideas - rolled up into the above two points.
Lack of Motivation - Last night wasn't the biggest game in the world, added into we'd had a big game last week, people may have had on eye on the playoffs.
Stop worrying, we'll come good!
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