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| Club "representatives" read these message boards as I know only to well
So if there is no truth in the rumour I would expect some sort of statement from Saints soon.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Club "representatives" read these message boards as I know only to well
If clubs responded directly to every unsubstantiated rumour on internet messageboards, they'd have little time to do anything else.
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| I'm a huge fan of Eastmond, I think he has huge potential. I always wondered why Potter never really shouted from the rooftops about him, and almost played the hype down a bit. I presumed it was because he was trying to look after him a bit. But now I'm thinking otherwise. He has so much to learn about the game, which is fair enough, he's only 20. Saying that, we've seen plenty of 20 year olds in the past, practically run the show for there team ie. Goulding, Farrell, Sinfield etc.
Eastmond, for me, isn't a team player. He can't direct the team around the pitch. And this is my worry, I don't think he's too worried about this. To me, he wants to win the game all by himself. He can kick decently on the last, but I don't believe he actually thinks about where he's placing it. Were Leon Pryce works really well off Long, I think Leon struggles a bit with Kyle. I really hope Eastmond is willing to learn the game, rather than trying to be the star man. Although I suspect, Union will beckon him.
If I was Potter, I would move Wilkin to Stand off, and Pryce to Scrum Half. Proper team players who can run the game. And would use Eastmond has a impact sub. Obviously until Long is back.
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| From an outsider Eastmond tried to run the show in attack for Saints yesterday and looked a real threat but he had little helf from his teamates and especially his halfback partner.
Cunningham and Graham did their usual busting a gut routine but 2 men alone don't usually lay a platform for the halfs to work on especially against such a well drilled side.
I thought the likes of Pryce and Wilkin let down Eastmond yesterday.
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| Quote: WindleSaint "I'm a huge fan of Eastmond, I think he has huge potential. I always wondered why Potter never really shouted from the rooftops about him, and almost played the hype down a bit. I presumed it was because he was trying to look after him a bit. But now I'm thinking otherwise. He has so much to learn about the game, which is fair enough, he's only 20. Saying that, we've seen plenty of 20 year olds in the past, practically run the show for there team ie. Goulding, Farrell, Sinfield etc.
Eastmond, for me, isn't a team player. He can't direct the team around the pitch. And this is my worry, I don't think he's too worried about this. To me, he wants to win the game all by himself. He can kick decently on the last, but I don't believe he actually thinks about where he's placing it. Were Leon Pryce works really well off Long, I think Leon struggles a bit with Kyle. I really hope Eastmond is willing to learn the game, rather than trying to be the star man. Although I suspect, Union will beckon him.
If I was Potter, I would move Wilkin to Stand off, and Pryce to Scrum Half. Proper team players who can run the game. And would use Eastmond has a impact sub. Obviously until Long is back.'"
I was waiting for someone to start criticizing Kyle. Painful as it was, yesterday will be a huge learning experience for him. Give the lad time and get off his back. He can do without all this pressure. The more he gets the more he may be inclined to move to union where he may be valued more. He is an extreme talent to be nurtured and developed not scape goated following a semi final defeat where there were far more seasoned performers who didn't play as well as Kyle.
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| Quote: (Saint) "If clubs responded directly to every unsubstantiated rumour on internet messageboards, they'd have little time to do anything else.'" thats very true, if saints say anything it will be "he's contracted for next year"
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| 20 year old kid playing in what must only be about his 5th start at scrum half, in a cup semi final behind a beaten pack. He made some errors accordingly, but wasn't that bad considering (no worse than Tomkins was for Wigan on Saturday).
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| A bit of a controversial statement here possibly but I don't think you will win anything with him at 7. At least not for a couple of years. The kid is an outstanding talent but with him and Pryce you have two runners and no organiser and I think you will miss Long more than you realise. Leeds get away with having no ball players at 6 and 7 because they have Sinfield playing loose forward but you don't play with a creative 13.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "A bit of a controversial statement here possibly but I don't think you will win anything with him at 7. At least not for a couple of years. The kid is an outstanding talent but with him and Pryce you have two runners and no organiser and I think you will miss Long more than you realise. Leeds get away with having no ball players at 6 and 7 because they have Sinfield playing loose forward but you don't play with a creative 13.'"
We wont win anything when Paul Sculthorpe leaves for the Sydney Roosters or Retires!! Oh wait.........
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| watching the half time parade with the likes of Scully and Joynty made me think that we have no leader on the field in the way these two used to.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "A bit of a controversial statement here possibly but I don't think you will win anything with him at 7. '"
The Bulls won everything with Paul Deacon at scrum half. That's more than enough evidence to undermine your ridiculous statement.
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| Quote: Saint from Prestwich "watching the half time parade with the likes of Scully and Joynty made me think that we have no leader on the field in the way these two used to.'"
Jammer. Arnold will do it when he gets to grips. I remember him bollocking a senior player on debut.
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| Quote: Saint from Prestwich "watching the half time parade with the likes of Scully and Joynty made me think that we have no leader on the field in the way these two used to.'"
I had exactly the same thought when KC and Graham were both off the field at the same time in the 2nd half. Wellens would be the natural leader, but its hard for him to do it from behind the line at full back.
Wilkin and Pryce needed to step up yesterday like they did in the cup game against Leeds, and they didnt.
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| Quote: Ski "Jammer. Arnold will do it when he gets to grips. I remember him bollocking a senior player on debut.'"
I remember this as well, some players are just born to make themselves heard on the pitch. Its like when Thomas Gravesen left Everton when Real Madrid signed him and on his debut he came on as sub and after about 5 minutes went off his head at Zidane.
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| If he doesn't sign for saints your club is just plain stupid. Saying that though, your club is not that stupid. I would take Eastmond over Leuluai anyday.
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