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| Quote: saintcj "How the hell did he get away with that.'"
They gave him the benefit of the doubt where his intentions were concerned. They opted to believe he did not intend to injury Stosic, which is probably true.
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| So by the same token, if there is a mass brawl, should we send off everyone who throws a single punch?
Tempers boil over, it happens
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| Quote: SaintsFan "They gave him the benefit of the doubt where his intentions were concerned. They opted to believe he did not intend to injury Stosic, which is probably true.'"
Why do you throw a punch , if not to hurt/injure somebody???
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| Quote: Spurry "Why do you throw a punch , if not to hurt/injure somebody???'"
To get them off you! That's what it was about and it's bloody obvious when it's seen on TV. Sheer frustration because Cunningham wanted to get a move on and wasn't being allowed.
I'd like to see less of the lying on at PTB. I think it's creating friction everywhere, including on the terraces, and doing nothing to enhance our sport.
And it wasn't a punch! I think the RFL's use of the word 'jab' was a more accurate description.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "To get them off you! That's what it was about and it's bloody obvious when it's seen on TV. Sheer frustration because Cunningham wanted to get a move on and wasn't being allowed.
I'd like to see less of the lying on at PTB. I think it's creating friction everywhere, including on the terraces, and doing nothing to enhance our sport.
And it wasn't a punch! I think the RFL's use of the word 'jab' was a more accurate description.'"
Spot on.....
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| Quote: SaintsFan "They gave him the benefit of the doubt where his intentions were concerned. They opted to believe he did not intend to injury Stosic, which is probably true.'"
No, they said he did intend to hit Stosic, but that the contact to the eye area was not intended. How you can intentionally throw a punch but unintentionally make any contact is baffling.
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| Correct decision.
To call it a punch is a complete over reaction.
He hardly touched him, infact to make such a big fuss about being tapped like he did and then having a 'fractured eye socket', 'fractured cheek bone' and whatever else, is completely embarrasing.
Lets hope he never gets one on the chin.
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "No, they said he did intend to hit Stosic, but that the contact to the eye area was not intended. '"
Since that is where the injury occurred, I don't see what the issue is? He didn't intend hitting his eye, which is what all the hysteria was about. If he'd shoved him on his back or pushed the ball into his shoulder or something to get Stosic the hell off himself, then no-one would have even noticed, much less had screaming fits over it. As is, he hit out to get him off and unintentionally hit his eye, which is where the injury occurred. Like I said earlier.
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| shocking!!! but not suprised.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Since that is where the injury occurred, I don't see what the issue is? He didn't intend hitting his eye, which is what all the hysteria was about. If he'd shoved him on his back or pushed the ball into his shoulder or something to get Stosic the hell off himself, then no-one would have even noticed, much less had screaming fits over it. As is, he hit out to get him off and unintentionally hit his eye, which is where the injury occurred. Like I said earlier.
He intentionally punched (the RFL's words) but unintentionally connected with the eye area. Where then did he intend to hit?
The precedent basically says you can punch intentionally and then say you intended to hit another part of the face and get away with it. Does that not seem wrong to you?
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| Quote: ST_CONROY "He intentionally punched (the RFL's words) but unintentionally connected with the eye area. Where then did he intend to hit?
The precedent basically says you can punch intentionally and then say you intended to hit another part of the face and get away with it. Does that not seem wrong to you?'"
You are looking at it too literally, too black or white. It was a prod with the ball carrying hand. He didn't know which part of Stosic's anatomy was lying on him, it was just a "Oh get off me" push/prod. It wasn't worthy of being called a punch.
The impact would have made a 3 year old giggle, that's how hard it was.
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| Good ,the great man deserves a break.
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| Quote: BOYD2 "Good ,the great man deserves a break.'"
Eye socket or cheek bone?....Then you can all agree its a good thing to let the perpatrator off with a warning because although he threw a punch at the king he didnt actually intend to hurt him....
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18821_1298880800.jpg [quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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| Quote: Hacked Off "Eye socket or cheek bone?....Then you can all agree its a good thing to let the perpatrator off with a warning because although he threw a punch at the king
Neither,just like Stosic.
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| the right decision imo.
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